Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-10 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, quote who=John Watlington We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools. Scalability with AAs is a problem, due to problems with the mesh protocols. Hence my comment about likely needing an

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-10 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi all, quote who=Sameer Verma I'm doing a reasonable AA trial and I'll post how it goes to the list soon. It seems to be working quite well though in initial tests. How many XOs? At the moment the most to one AA is 45, and it was weird because with an earlier version of the XO software

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Walter, we still hold hope for XOs as school servers for very small schools.The problem with this is insufficient memory and insufficient disk space. While an external disk may alleviate the second

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread John Watlington
Sameer, We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools. Scalability with AAs is a problem, due to problems with the mesh protocols. Hence my comment about likely needing an external USB/network interface for the upstream connection. This might make the physical security

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Recommend: lockable, secure case, with built-in securement loops that could attach to a bike chain or cable. --HH. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer, We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools. Scalability with AAs is a

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As if discussions on this list aren't lively enough, here's another issue to look at. This has been covered in many discussions - perhaps not so much on this list but it's an important issue. However, there is little we can

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-07 Thread John Watlington
You keep pushing for centrally hosted school servers. Are you sure you don't work for the phone company ? Again, unless you have a 100 Mbit connection from the school to the upstream ISP, you will need something with a disk and a significant amount of memory present in the school. I don't

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You keep pushing for centrally hosted school servers. Are you sure you don't work for the phone company ? Last time I checked, San Francisco State University wasn't in the telco business. Again, unless you have a 100

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-07 Thread Walter Bender
One idealet (not worthy of being called an idea): What if the server were a laptop that the teacher could take with him/her? Pros: The school need not be secure. Cons: Price, and of course, laptops can be stolen. But it does put the server in the hands of a presumably trusted individual in the

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-07 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One idealet (not worthy of being called an idea): What if the server were a laptop that the teacher could take with him/her? Pros: The school need not be secure. Cons: Price, and of course, laptops can be stolen. But it

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-07 Thread John Watlington
Actually, Walter, we still hold hope for XOs as school servers for very small schools.The problem with this is insufficient memory and insufficient disk space. While an external disk may alleviate the second problem, it has poor reliability and is a very attractive item for theft. But