On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 06:46:05PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> > p.s. it is good that you are being transparent with your
> > decisions, because that gives you a chance to have them publically
> > reviewed. ;-)
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> p.s. it is good that you are being transparent with your decisions,
> because that gives you a chance to have them publically reviewed. ;-)
>
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:04:11PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
>> Thanks for the update. Currently
Flavio,
Would be good have concrete proposals about what you think can be improved,
to be discussed point by point.
About a easier implementation of collaboration, we discussed a proposal,
and I think Agustin started a implementation.
Gonzalo
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Flavio Danesse wrote:
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 10:12:52PM +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> I think we are still very early in the life of the web activities
> framework. I can't think of a single API that we could consider set
> in stones.
Thanks, correction accepted. I was speculating.
--
James Cameron
http://quozl.li
On 1 November 2013 22:09, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> On 1 November 2013 21:59, James Cameron wrote:
>
>> Use this phase of the process as an opportunity for you and your
>> people to practice communicating with other developers in the
>> community; and measure the effort in the design process, not
On 1 November 2013 21:59, James Cameron wrote:
> Use this phase of the process as an opportunity for you and your
> people to practice communicating with other developers in the
> community; and measure the effort in the design process, not the
> achievements.
>
>
+1
> > In the first couple of
p.s. it is good that you are being transparent with your decisions,
because that gives you a chance to have them publically reviewed. ;-)
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:04:11PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
> Thanks for the update. Currently, AC does not have the credibility to
> participate in the des
Thanks for the update. Currently, AC does not have the credibility to
participate in the design process. Let's give it 2-3 months for AC's
R&D team learning how to work effectively with the HTML5+JS team at
SL.
In the first couple of weeks, I expect that this will mostly involve
creating web activ
Indeed, deployments (both administrators and users) have much to
contribute to Sugar and the XO's community.
The challenge here was how to get and manage such tremendous amount of
feedback?
Back in November of 2011, we (the Peruvian Local Lab) made an open
call to the community addressing this a
On Oct 31, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, David Farning
> wrote:
>> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
>> set of questions which will determine the future viability of Sugar.
>>
>> If anyone as more informed, please corr
On 1 November 2013 03:22, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez
> wrote:
> > On 31 October 2013 19:31, Walter Bender wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
> >> >
> >> > Mission St
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> On 31 October 2013 19:31, Walter Bender wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
>>
>> > Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
>> >
>> > Mission Statement: To create educational opportunities for the world's
>> > p
On 31 October 2013 19:31, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
>
> > Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
> >
> > Mission Statement: To create educational opportunities for the world's
> > poorest children by providing each child with a rugged, low-cost,
>
On 29 October 2013 20:29, David Farning wrote:
> Phase two -- Let's look at lessons learned from other projects. We can
> focus on the road map and product specification. From my experience,
> these two piece can provide an anchor for the rest of the project:
> 1. The act of sitting down and hashi
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
> [...] We are seeing continued adoption of the XO in Rwanda (I hear
> Rwanda is 1.75, but not 4) and Australia. [...]
I can confirm that Rwanda is using XO-1.75, not XO-4. You can find
this information, albeit without quantities, in t
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
> Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
>
> Mission Statement: To create educational opportunities for the world's
> poorest children by providing each child with a rugged, low-cost,
> low-power, connected laptop with content and software desig
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, David Farning
wrote:
> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
> set of questions which will determine the future viability of Sugar.
>
> If anyone as more informed, please correct me if I am sharing
> incorrect information:
> 1. The Ass
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> About phase two: What is wrong with our actual Feature process?
There is nothing wrong with the feature process. The project
specification ( please see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.4/Project_Specifications
) is supplemen
About phase two: What is wrong with our actual Feature process?
About topics you are not talking, I would like AC spend some time trying to
push features upstream. That was almost not done in the last year,
and I am working on that right now, but would be good some help from your
part.
Gonzalo
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
>> I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
>> participating on this thread.
>>
>> The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
>> 1. Ja
2013/10/29 Walter Bender
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
> > I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
> > participating on this thread.
> >
> > The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
> > 1. Jame's point about my pos
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
> participating on this thread.
>
> The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
> 1. Jame's point about my position about not representing the median.
>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
> participating on this thread.
Ahem. You are casting fugly accusations, you can't stand back and
thank everyone for their valuable feedback.
> 2. Martin's point about th
David,
I agree with James. I never heard something like that, is a big accusation,
and really do not help to move things forward.
As I was in the Sugar team of OLPC Association for the last 3 years,
I am absolutely sure we didn't have any direction about that,
and every decision was based on code q
Sounds great to me!
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013, David Farning wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
> participating on this thread.
>
> The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
> 1. Jame's point about my position about not representi
On 29/10/2013, at 11:14 AM, David Farning wrote:
> As two Data points:
> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me
> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity
> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard
> to Activity Cen
I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
participating on this thread.
The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
1. Jame's point about my position about not representing the median.
Due to my history and role in the ecosystem, I have upset some
app
On 29 October 2013 01:14, David Farning wrote:
> As two Data points:
> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me
> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity
> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard
> to Activity Cent
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:14 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me
> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity
> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard
> to Activity Central was to _not
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:14 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:01 PM, David Farning
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
>>> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender
>>>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:01 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender
>>> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
David wrote:
> The degree of openness and transparency is our fundamental
> disagreement. Best case is that the status quo works, Sugar Labs
> thrives, and I am proven wrong. Worst case is that Sugar adopts to
> the changing environment.
I haven't been able to parse this in a way that gives me con
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:01 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
>>> wrote:
I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
>> wrote:
>>> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
>>
>> I don't speak on behalf of the Associatio
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
>> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
>
> I don't speak on behalf of the Association, but I think your positions
> are overstated. As far as I know, t
On 23 October 2013 19:51, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> I don't understand what you are asking. Sugar Labs has always had a
> >> policy of working in the open.
> >
> >
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Walter Bender
> wrote:
[snip]
>> I don't understand what you are asking. Sugar Labs has always had a
>> policy of working in the open.
>
> The degree of openness and transparency is our fundamental
> disag
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
> wrote:
>> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
>> set of questions which will determine the future viability of Sugar.
>>
>> If anyone as more informed, please
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning
wrote:
> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
> set of questions which will determine the future viability of Sugar.
>
> If anyone as more informed, please correct me if I am sharing
> incorrect information:
> 1. The As
I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical
set of questions which will determine the future viability of Sugar.
If anyone as more informed, please correct me if I am sharing
incorrect information:
1. The Association has dropped future development of XO laptops and
Sugar as
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> I agree with your analysis about slow deployment updates versus fast
> community cycles.
>
> In my view, there are two alternatives:
>
> * We can slow down a little the Sugar cycle, may be doing one release by
> year,
> but I am not sure if
I agree with your analysis about slow deployment updates versus fast
community cycles.
In my view, there are two alternatives:
* We can slow down a little the Sugar cycle, may be doing one release by
year,
but I am not sure if will help. The changes will take more time to go to
the users?
If a de
For phase one this openness in communication, I would like to open the
discussion to strategies for working together. My interest is how to
deal with the notion of overlapping yet non-identical goals.
As a case study, let's look at deployment and developer preferences
for stability and innovation.
David,
Certainly is good know plans, and started a interesting discussion.
In eduJam and in Montevideo, I was talking with the new AC hackers,
and tried to convince them to work on sugar 0.100 instead of sugar 0.98.
Have a lot of sense try to work in the same code if possible,
and will be good for
> and I apologize for that.
Unity in diversity is a necessity for the success of global projects
addressing communities and civil society.
It is always great to see all the members of an eco-system working towards
a common goal.
Regards,
Manu
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:26 PM, David Farni
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