Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 July 2010 06:17, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 12 July 2010 19:27, James Cameron wrote: >> I'm still unconvinced that this is worth changing, given the additional >> work that it will cause. >> >> I'd like to hear from the heavy users of trac, in particular Chris (cjb), >> Daniel (dsd), and Paul

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> why would you want to know what tickets were closed > as part of work toward a particular release? Let me give an answer from the user's perspective (I'm seconding what Martin's response said): Consider build 800 versus build 802. Suppose I as an user had a problem on build 767 which prevented

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 July 2010 19:27, James Cameron wrote: > I'm still unconvinced that this is worth changing, given the additional > work that it will cause. > > I'd like to hear from the heavy users of trac, in particular Chris (cjb), > Daniel (dsd), and Paul (pgf). I think our current system made sense temp

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
It may be worth looking at http://trac.edgewall.org/roadmap for how the trac team itself uses it. In particular, if you check the "Show completed milestones" box, and then on some old milestone (like, say, http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.11.3 ) you can drill down into any component and see wha

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread James Cameron
I'm still unconvinced that this is worth changing, given the additional work that it will cause. I'd like to hear from the heavy users of trac, in particular Chris (cjb), Daniel (dsd), and Paul (pgf). -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Dev

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Question back at you; why would you want to know what tickets were closed > as part of work toward a particular release? I regularly 'datamine' the SCM repos and bug/task-trackers of the components I use. This is enormously important when ma

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 09:59:58AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Key question: How do we query 'tickets closed in 10.1.0'? How about in > 10.1.1? Can't. Not even if milestones were release version names. When tickets are closed we do not capture a meaningful "closed as part of work toward rele

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, James Cameron wrote: > You're asking me to rejustify decisions made in November 2009 when the > environment was somewhat different. I understand the situation was weird in Nov 2009. But that's behind us, and I'd say we got to make good use of the tools we have...

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-11 Thread James Cameron
You're asking me to rejustify decisions made in November 2009 when the environment was somewhat different. We had informal unpublished plans to release but we had no release name chosen. The change I made months ago was to facilitate testers and bug reporters ... to increase the data quality by r

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:45 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Use 1.x-software-update for tickets you plan to have fixed for the next > release.  (Choose these tickets based on the intent of the release). Ok. That's not how Trac is designed to work, however. And not how most (all minus olpc? ;-) ) use

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-11 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 05:33:54PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > > XO-1.5: > > === > > > > We'll be continuing to work on XO-1.5 improvements, incorporating > > fixes to the "Known Problems" section of the 10.1.1 release notes? > > into the

Re: Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Andrew van der Stock wrote: > waiting for more dev boards to arrive The SoC is similar to the Sheeva Plug so the CPU/platform porting can be done on one of those. Driver stuff is a different matter, of course - m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.or

Re: Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Andrew, > Hi Chris, Can we work on QEMU with the F12 / F13 ARM port to > emulate user land of XO 1.75 and Sugar? I think that would be > helpful to get things bootstrapped earlier than waiting for more > dev boards to arrive if an emulation mechanism could be > developed. We can

Re: Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-10 Thread Andrew van der Stock
Hi Chris, Can we work on QEMU with the F12 / F13 ARM port to emulate user land of XO 1.75 and Sugar? I think that would be helpful to get things bootstrapped earlier than waiting for more dev boards to arrive if an emulation mechanism could be developed. In terms of the PS/2 closed source cod

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > XO-1.5: > === > > We'll be continuing to work on XO-1.5 improvements, incorporating > fixes to the "Known Problems" section of the 10.1.1 release notes¹ > into the 10.1.2 release. Chris, James, can we rename the upcoming milestone to 10.1.2

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Chris Ball wrote: >   > What about the compiler? IIUC currently a commercial compiler is >   > required. If that continues to be the case (as I expect it to), >   > would it be possible for OLPC to provide the (probably very few) >   > users interested in hacking on

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 11:02 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Congratulations on the excellent work done to date by you all and on > the sound (and well communicated) plan. I couldn't agree more. On top of this, interaction between OLPC, the Fedora community and the Sugar Labs community has been fant

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 00:01, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to > talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future.  We've got a few > announcements to make: > > XO-1: > = > > OLPC wasn't planning to make a Fedora 11 release of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-08 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
Hi Chris, Well done to the team for all the hard work! > Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to > talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future.  We've got a few > announcements to make: > > XO-1: > = > > OLPC wasn't planning to make a Fedora 11 release of the

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to > talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future.  We've got a few > announcements to make: > > XO-1: > = > > OLPC wasn't planning to make a Fedora 11 release of t

Re: Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-07 Thread Tiago Marques
Massive kudos for everything :) Keep up the great work and keep us up to date on those ARM developments. Best regards, Tiago On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to > talk about OLPC's software strategy for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-07 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Chris, thanks a lot for the extensive (and exciting!) updates and information, much appreciated:-) Cheers, Christoph Am 08.07.2010 um 00:01 schrieb Chris Ball : > Hi, > > Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to > talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future.

Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-07 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future. We've got a few announcements to make: XO-1: = OLPC wasn't planning to make a Fedora 11 release of the XO-1 OS, but a group of volunteers including Steven Parrish, Bern