Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Edward Cherlin wrote: > I would want to work out algorithms in APL and translate to something > else after they were working. I may be able to provide an APL for the > XO next month. It's 29K. See Executable Math on the Wiki. Very cool!! I've always wanted to learn APL but never had an excuse. I t

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Dec 23, 2007 12:50 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danilo Câmara wrote: > > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained > > environments. How much memory for execution?

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Edward, > Yeah, I discovered that yesterday when I got my physical machine. Congratulations! > I've been build my emulated XOs from the ext3 images as described > somewhere on the wiki. If there's a way to build an emulated XO > using a jffs2 image instead, I'll switch over to that. I not

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Edward, > >> a. There isn't enough room for the RPM on the base 1 GB hard drive. > > This, and what you wrote to the Ruby mailing list makes me think > that there is some differerence between your environment and a typical > installment on XO. A clean installation of

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Edward, > a. There isn't enough room for the RPM on the base 1 GB hard drive. This, and what you wrote to the Ruby mailing list makes me think that there is some differerence between your environment and a typical installment on XO. A clean installation of later Update.1 gives me about 65% f

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Jake, > How do you swap out the window manager? I missed the question earlier, sorry. The simplest thing is to edit /usr/bin/olpc-session. The last line of it reads currently: exec /usr/bin/sugar You can change it so that: #exec /usr/bin/sugar twm& exec

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Pippy is a capable basic Python IDE. sshfs is a nice way to get access to the XO's filesystem from a full-scale development machine. The XO's flash is large enough to install emacs, git, and other such tools; a full C development environment is a bit of a stretch, but you can add an external SD ca

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Rob Savoye wrote: >> 2. "Native" develop and test on the XO itself. > GCC and G++ are both used with the XO. Used with an XO, sure. But not *installed on* the XO by default. I run virtual XOs in VMware Workstation 6. You can't install VMware Tools on one because: a. There isn't enough room for

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
Eic looks really nice. I tooka first stab at installing it but (a) it has a LOt of dependancies that take up a lto of room and 9b) one of the dependnacies, QScintilla, doesn't seem to be available as a binary and I gacve up at that point. I might look at idle to see if its as bad... JK On Dec

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > The discussion thread rather looks like it suffered from a 'too many > cooks" problem. > > Aren't there any existing small ide's written in pyton for python? The two main IDEs for Python are "Eric" and "Idle" (bonus points for knowing who Eric Idle is and what *other* g

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
The discussion thread rather looks like it suffered from a 'too many cooks" problem. Aren't there any existing small ide's written in pyton for python? JK On Dec 23, 2007 3:57 PM, Jake B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 23, 2007 3:50 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > D

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Rob Savoye
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > > 1. Cross-develop on a more powerful platform, download the software to > the XO, and test it. Which is the easiest way. You can also develop natively on Fedora 7, and just copy the executables over, as the XO is basically running Fedora 7 anyway. > 2. "Native"

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Jake B
On Dec 23, 2007 3:50 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danilo Câmara wrote: > > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained > > environments. I'm working with an ARM XScale PX

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Danilo Câmara wrote: > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained > environments. I'm working with an ARM XScale PXA270 platform but would > like also to work with a x86-based constrained platform.

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread NoiseEHC
If you hit some areas where the spec (databook) does not describe reality, please update this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Geode Thanks! Danilo Câmara wrote: > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in co

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Jake B
I'm surprisingly happy with the XO laptop keyboard. After only a day of practice, I've acclimated enough to be productive. How do you swap out the window manager? Jake On Dec 23, 2007 1:33 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danilo, > > > I'm a student at State University of Campin

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Danilo, > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained > environments. I'm working with an ARM XScale PXA270 platform but would > like also to work with a x86-based constrained platform. I think th

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Phil Bordelon
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > Keep in mind though that it has the "chicklet' keyboard that really > isnt suited to writing a whole lot at once. > > I haven't tried plugging a USB kb in. I dont know if it would work. Plugging in a USB keyboard works great. That's how I used my XO at work over the p

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
Keep in mind though that it has the "chicklet' keyboard that really isnt suited to writing a whole lot at once. I haven't tried plugging a USB kb in. I dont know if it would work. My devel environment is an emulator for development and my give/get for testing. JK On Dec 23, 2007 1:00 PM, ffm <

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread ffm
It has wireless connectivity, so you should be able to ssh via wifi. -ffm On Nov 27, 2007 10:52 PM, Danilo Câmara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching > efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained > environ

Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread Danilo Câmara
I'm a student at State University of Campinas, Brazil. I'm researching efficient implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography in constrained environments. I'm working with an ARM XScale PXA270 platform but would like also to work with a x86-based constrained platform. I think the OLPC laptop is an