Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-24 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 10:55 +0200, Bernie Innocenti a écrit : - how could a kid talk with his parents or teachers who are using a normal computer FYI, I did some packaging work and resurrected the video-chat activity. I was able to videocall my 2 XO's and to call one XO using Empathy

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Guillaume, FYI, I did some packaging work and resurrected the video-chat activity. I was able to videocall my 2 XO's and to call one XO using Empathy from my desktop. You rock! - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 10:55 +0200, Bernie Innocenti a écrit : - how could they make kids from Ankara and Istanbul chat together - how could a kid talk with his parents or teachers who are using a normal computer We use XMPP/Jabber when the laptop is connected to a schoolserver. So

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 11:54 -0400, Chris Ball a écrit : Hi, - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was working on it months ago. What is the current status? We need two things: a codec that we can encode and decode in real-time (the demo from 2006 used

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: We use XMPP/Jabber when the laptop is connected to a schoolserver. So basically all we need to do to allow this is: - Enable communications between jabber server - Add a way in Sugar to add not OLPC contact as Friend, initiate chats with them, etc. - Modify Chat

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Right. As said we need a good free encoder as H263 has legal issues. So, if we want to have full audio/video support on XO's we have to: a) Solve this legal codec issue and make farsight work with the chosen free codec The download codecs yourself (aka [EMAIL

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Urko Fernandez
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The download codecs yourself (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is an I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the free implementation of a codec. This is completely legal in some countries, you are not stealing

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Urko Fernandez wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The download codecs yourself (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is an I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the free implementation of a codec. This is completely legal in some countries,

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Urko Fernandez
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 16:31 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: And even if they _do_ ask you, patent law only allows patent holders a compensation proportional to the market opportunity involved in the specific breach. So, if I download an mp3 codec, I can be asked to refund the market value of

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Denver Gingerich
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The download codecs yourself (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is an I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using the free implementation of a

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Denver Gingerich
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Urko Fernandez wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:13 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The download codecs yourself (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is an I don't think you can call it piracy when all you are doing is using

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-22 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 22/04/2008 am 09:59, ysgrifennodd Guillaume Desmottes: Le lundi 21 avril 2008 à 11:54 -0400, Chris Ball a écrit : Hi, - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was working on it months ago. What is the current status? We need two things: a codec that we

Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Ciao, here in Turkey they asked me how two kids or a kid and a parent may chat to each other between two households. Usually I get quite the opposite question :-) They understand there will also be privacy concerns to be addressed, but for now they are more interested in how feasible it would

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Eben Eliason
- for large schools of 1000 students, they ask how the mesh view UI would scale. Are we switching to a search-based interface in when there are so many kids clustered in the same LAN? This is the intended design direction, but it hasn't been implemented yet. We do have search, but we

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was working on it months ago. What is the current status? We need two things: a codec that we can encode and decode in real-time (the demo from 2006 used h.263) and a transport layer -- I think we have a UDP transport for

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was working on it months ago. What is the current status? We need two things: a codec that we can encode and decode in real-time (the demo from 2006

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:54 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: - They asked if video chat is possible. I recall someone was working on it months ago. What is the current status? We need two things: a codec that we can encode and decode in real-time (the demo from 2006 used h.263) and a

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, We need two things: a codec that we can encode and decode in real-time (the demo from 2006 used h.263) and a transport layer -- I think we have a UDP transport for Salut, but not for Gabble, so video chat would be on the local mesh only. So are we designing from scratch?