> > Errors ought to be detected as typed, with the text changing
> > color at the point where syntax is violated. So this...
> >
> > 7+5-9*4)-5
> >
> > ...would be highlighted starting from the ')' character.
> >
> This sounds like a good idea, but I think it could be a little tricky
> sometimes, s
On 9/9/07, Yoshiki Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To reiterate my point, I think "the code behind" should be *ideally*
> presented in different ways that different learners can understand.
> In Etoys, you can go from visual tile scripting to (say) textual
> Smalltalk to the Smalltalk parse
Albert,
Albert Cahalan wrote:
> Yoshiki Ohshima writes:
>
>> Hi, Steve,
>>
>>> I am a lurker, but this is an interesting discussion. I am a
>>> developer in health applications working with current dev release on a
>>> B4. Calculate is impressive; Pippy is impressive. They each serve a
Ivan,
> There were virtually no widespread public systems of education until
> the industrial revolution. Once they came about, they came about with
> a purpose: creating skilled industrial workers.
I would say this part is too much generalization, but,,,
> That's broken. The reason the
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 22:36 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote:
> Wow, fast answer!
> > On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:20 PM, NoiseEHC wrote:
> >> I tried to run my little tests via this mailing list and there were some
> >> kind people who took the time to help me but it turned out that the
> >> Geode is below my worst
Wow, fast answer!
> On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:20 PM, NoiseEHC wrote:
>> I tried to run my little tests via this mailing list and there were some
>> kind people who took the time to help me but it turned out that the
>> Geode is below my worst expectations and so requires a lot more tests
>> than my pati
On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:20 PM, NoiseEHC wrote:
> I tried to run my little tests via this mailing list and there were
> some
> kind people who took the time to help me but it turned out that the
> Geode is below my worst expectations and so requires a lot more tests
> than my patience.
Send me your
On Sep 7, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> Dear my. I'm all in favor of supporting the bright kids, but that
> suggestion sounds like grade 12 honors at minimum.
Based on what? Preconceived notions of kids' capabilities as funneled
through modern assembly-line education systems?
You've
> On Sep 7, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>
>> You can almost tell that he is pretty much the only guy who is
>> interested in supporting outside developers.
>>
>
> That isn't fair. I speak on behalf of the entire OLPC team when I say
> that we're extremely interested in supp
Ivan,
> > You can almost tell that he is pretty much the only guy who is
> > interested in supporting outside developers.
>
> That isn't fair. I speak on behalf of the entire OLPC team when I say
> that we're extremely interested in supporting outside developers.
> There's no question about
On Sep 7, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> You can almost tell that he is pretty much the only guy who is
> interested in supporting outside developers.
That isn't fair. I speak on behalf of the entire OLPC team when I say
that we're extremely interested in supporting outside develope
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 03:34:18PM -0700, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> No no. Do you have any reason to believe that cannot be done under
> grade 12? (You can't really mean 12th graders... You mean 12 years
> old, right?)
I'm in Australia. In our school system we use lowest common
denominator, cl
Hi, James,
> I'm in Australia. In our school system we use lowest common
> denominator, class based teaching ... advancement in knowledge and skill
> beyond the plan for the year is socially punished.
Wow. Sounds like Japan.
> Bright kids learned
> to hide their ability. However, even wi
Albert,
> > Again, this is not a criticism toward Reinier, but rather toward the
> > fact that keeping up with the rate of change that Sugar and the UI
> > guideline is not something a volunteer developer can easily cope with.
>
> Calculate is in Python, isn't it? Sugar and UI changes are dea
> > We begin with the hypothesis that any subject can be taught
> > effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any
> > stage of development. -- Jerome Bruner
> >
>
> Sounds more like a statement of faith than a falsifiable hypothesis.
It is too bad to see a p
Mitch,
> > Remember the famous quote from Jerome Bruner:
> >
> > We begin with the hypothesis that any subject can be taught
> > effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any
> > stage of development.
> >
>
> Sounds more like a statement of faith than a fal
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>
> Remember the famous quote from Jerome Bruner:
>
> We begin with the hypothesis that any subject can be taught
> effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any
> stage of development.
>
Sounds more like a statement of faith than
Albert,
Oh, good. You weren't simply trying to flame the discussion after
all^^; For now, let me just jump to the last part...
> > Imagine if the functions that are available in the Calculate "mode"
> > (such as sin, sqrt, etc.) are actually defined in a way that kids can
> > understand (f
Yoshiki Ohshima writes:
> Hi, Steve,
>> I am a lurker, but this is an interesting discussion. I am a
>> developer in health applications working with current dev release on a
>> B4. Calculate is impressive; Pippy is impressive. They each serve a
>> purpose which I think fits into an OPLC evolut
Hi, Steve,
I now understand that the "merger" wouldn't happen in the given
timeframe, so the following is just an unconstructive rant...
> I am a lurker, but this is an interesting discussion. I am a
> developer in health applications working with current dev release on a
> B4. Calculate is
Hi All,
I am a lurker, but this is an interesting discussion. I am a
developer in health applications working with current dev release on a
B4. Calculate is impressive; Pippy is impressive. They each serve a
purpose which I think fits into an OPLC evolutionist philosophy.
First, there are US t
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