Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread surendra sedhai
I have tested for firefox only. For both firefox-2 and firefox-3 it works well. I have used my own svg file so I dont get any problem regarding icon. Its really easy to make it work. I have tried to make the xo bundle from those stuffs . The steps I did was 1)Sugarize the firefox 2) Copy entire

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What happens when you try to make activities full screen in metacity >> (by setting the appropriate ICCCM/EWMH hints) looks like >

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What happens when you try to make activities full screen in metacity > (by setting the appropriate ICCCM/EWMH hints) looks like > http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/sugar_metacity/Captura%20de%20pantalla_1.png > > If y

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/6/27 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > dia folk are working on a feature that allows either the gimp style (SDI) or > the windows style (MDI). Don't know when it will be released. Gimp is > available via the "gimpshop" fork as an MDI application. Does this help? Yeah. And I think it's ye

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Carol Lerche
dia folk are working on a feature that allows either the gimp style (SDI) or the windows style (MDI). Don't know when it will be released. Gimp is available via the "gimpshop" fork as an MDI application. Does this help? On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 11:19 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti w

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 11:19 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> >>> There are ways we can implement different behavior for different >>> win

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 11:19 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > >> There are ways we can implement different behavior for different >> windows (for example the maximus approach could be extended to do so). >> The problem is,

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Jim Gettys
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 11:19 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > There are ways we can implement different behavior for different > windows (for example the maximus approach could be extended to do so). > The problem is, how do we know which windows should be displayed > fullscreen (say the firefo

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There are ways we can implement different behavior for different >> windows (for example the maximus approach could be extended to do so). >> The problem is, how do we know which windows should be displayed >> fullscreen (s

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> GNOME Calculator did not break in sugar when I ran it in maximized + >> undecorated mode. Gimp did though. > > Breaks as it looks real

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GNOME Calculator did not break in sugar when I ran it in maximized + > undecorated mode. Gimp did though. Breaks as it looks really ugly (huge buttons). I guess that's something you could fix upstream though... Marco

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for >> us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code c

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for the che

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Jim Gettys
> There are ways we can implement different behavior for different > windows (for example the maximus approach could be extended to do so). > The problem is, how do we know which windows should be displayed > fullscreen (say the firefox or the gedit one) and which not (the > gimp)? afaik there is

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > |> Can't regular activities just ask to be maximized

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Can't regular activities just ask to be maximized |> and/or ask to be the same size as the screen? |> The common Python libraries could do this.

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm looking for the cheap wins first ;-) >>> >>> when people talk about different desktops, doesn't this also i

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> this wouldn't require changing any code on any apps, just selecting the >>> right window manager for that desktop (if th

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread david
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm looking for the cheap wins first ;-) >> >> when people talk about different desktops, doesn't this also imply different >> window managers for each one? if this is the case, then

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> this wouldn't require changing any code on any apps, just selecting the >> right window manager for that desktop (if the app never opens secondary >> windows it doesn't need any decorations, if it does

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for the cheap wins first ;-) > > when people talk about different desktops, doesn't this also imply different > window managers for each one? if this is the case, then it should be fairly > simple to define a window manager

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread david
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: From what I gathered from my expe

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for >>> us to go with Meta

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:15 AM, surendra sedhai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tested for firefox only. For both firefox-2 and firefox-3 it works > well. I have used my own svg file so I dont get any problem regarding icon. > Its really easy to make it work. I have tried to make the xo bundl

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread david
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for >> us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code changes >> in metacity and minor

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for >> us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code chang

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for > us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code changes > in metacity and minor changes in sugar. If we want to support activity > ico

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for > us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code changes > in metacity and minor changes in sugar. If we want to support activity > ic

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Other than the circle icon, do you have any ma

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Other than the circle icon, do you have any major issue? If it's just > that, adding _NET_WM_ICON support to the sugar shell should be really > easy. I'm not sure... Surendra has been working on it. Added him to cc in case he has comments. > I'm planning to work on

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Other than the circle icon, do you have any major issue? If it's just >> that, adding _NET_WM_ICON support to the sugar shell should

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than the circle icon, do you have any major issue? If it's just > that, adding _NET_WM_ICON support to the sugar shell should be really > easy. Great. BTW, the old-style bitmaps could be given the XO colors

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Oh, is there a way around this requirement too? A few days ago >> someone here at OLE Nepal bundled up Firefox 2 and was disappointed >> to get the infamous circle icon. For them, changing the code and >> rebuilding f

Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 26.06.2008 um 05:12 schrieb Bernie Innocenti: > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >>> If we manage to make DBus entirely optional, the initial effort >>> of porting a Linux applications to Sugar would be greatly >>> simplified. >> >> As far as I know this is already the case. The only non standard bi