Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
, with no bounds checking in some cases. We're very lucky if it works so well :-) Sounds right, but I'm not sure *who* is going to put their time into it. What about Gnome people. I would guess they will not be indifferent to the OLPC/XO. Couldn't they be formally asked for support? (I know

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-26 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome To: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Cc: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC fedora

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 01:10 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: I really think that the Gnome desktop is a valuable addition for the XO but mostly for the end user. Is not a coincidence that people use it. So openness and robustness should be implemented there too. If the problem

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-26 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC fedora

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
:-) Sounds right, but I'm not sure *who* is going to put their time into it. What about Gnome people. I would guess they will not be indifferent to the OLPC/XO. Couldn't they be formally asked for support? (I know is upstream but...) Do you have good contacts within the Gnome community? I

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
without the need to reflash. The decision of including Gnome in a deployment should not be taken lightly. It adds _at least_ some mess avoidance and recovery from mess training; as well as I made a mess in Gnome support issues. Yeah, we're pondering it. People are split on issue, but surely

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 09:33 -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: More than protecting them, which is very hard or impossible, I'd add an option to reset them to defaults without the need to reflash. It just occurred to me that GNOME actually provides some ways to lock-down settings, useful

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-24 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 08:44:06 pm Bernie Innocenti wrote: test -f $HOMEDIR/.dontrestore || tar xjvf /var/lib/home-save.tbz -C $HOMEDIR ./ Users tend to fill up their home very quickly and we don't have 400-500MB of free space for an extra copy. The backup would only contain

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Children discovered some very creative ways to break their systems through Gnome. LOL! And whatever we fix up, more creative ways of making a mess will appear. All I can suggest is that having a hardlinked tree

To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 23:13 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: OK. The Sugar desktop was unaffected by all these. So if you manage to switch you are safe. However, is still a breaker for me, given that is generated by a gnome panel option. Children discovered some very creative ways

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-23 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 07:28:05 pm Bernie Innocenti wrote: All we need is a fast way to recover from disasters. A panic button which would reset all settings. It could be implemented in olpc-configure with 3 lines of code. In the absence of a recovery option, technicians resort to flashing

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 20:31 +0530, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: On Tuesday 23 March 2010 07:28:05 pm Bernie Innocenti wrote: All we need is a fast way to recover from disasters. A panic button which would reset all settings. It could be implemented in olpc-configure with 3 lines of code. In the