Re: Touch pads

2008-11-26 Thread pgf
ton van overbeek wrote: > Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. > I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the > original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more "original"? the firmware gets updated when you update the

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.11.2008, at 04:18, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. > I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the > original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more > mouse packets to be delivered to

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more mouse packets to be delivered to the CPU. Also there was a change in mouse mode between ship

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread David Leeming
]; David Leeming PFnet; Bryan Berry; OLPC Developer's List Subject: Re: Touch pads On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ties Stuij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bryan Berry wrote: >> Here

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
I'm here in Guatemala, and I see it to the point where it is a serious problem. This is an interesting data point, because it is more humid than hot here - average temperature around 21C but average humidity in the 70s or so - http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/city_guides/results.shtml?tt=TT001860

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ties Stuij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bryan Berry wrote: >> Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to >> test with. > > Oh really? I've seen trouble with

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: > Can we get some of the new touchpad laptops out to locations that > have reported issues due to heat/moisture to see how they respond? > It would good to get some data and fix any issues before we roll these > out en masse. Perhaps. I'll have to check with wad and see if w

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: > > i just tried to simulate this. > > as a test i used an eyedropper to put 0.5ml of tapwater onto the > touchpad. suddenly the entire vertical strip of trackpad containing Foreign material on all non multi-touch pads causes problems. Drops of liquid bre

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Nov 25 2008, at 18:13, Richard A. Smith was caught saying: > Touchpad problems are listed in many deployments. Our biggest hurdle to > fixing it having reliable way to duplicate the problem. It seems to > happen lots out in the wild its very hard to reproduce on demand and its > pretty rare

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ties Stuij wrote: >> If you do do have laptops that have the problem consistently we might >> want to try and do some sort of swap. > > I wouldn't go there... > Sorry, not to rub it in,.. but.. yea, well a bit actually. This is a > very, VERY big and very known (hardware) bug. And if it's still n

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ben Wiley Sittler
not sure whether this is the same bug/limitation, but i have noticed the touchpad goes haywire when my daughter uses it with a bit of food on her fingers (obviously i try to avoid letting this happen, but sometimes it does anyhow...) i just tried to simulate this. as a test i used an eyedropper t

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Joachim Pedersen
I've seen this as an increasing problem on my personal XO, which gets quite a bit of heavy use, as evidenced by the some what polished area of the touchpad, ringed with brownish dirt. >> As we've reported before, it also seems to get worse when the machines >> get dusty, and fat/sweaty fingers don

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the problem is that if they can't duplicate the problem they can't fix it > (they can change things, but they have no way of knowing if it fixes the > problem or not) Well, right now I'm in a rather hot and humid location (Buenos Aires

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread david
ople First Network > Honiara, Solomon Islands > > > -Original Message- > From: Ties Stuij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 7:34 a.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Bryan Berry; David Leeming PFnet; OLPC Developer's List > Subject: R

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread David Leeming
t: Re: Touch pads On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan Berry wrote: > Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to > test with. Oh really? I've seen trouble with almost any machine I touched aro

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ties Stuij
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan Berry wrote: > Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to > test with. Oh really? I've seen trouble with almost any machine I touched around here in Nepal. Not that it happens every t

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Bryan Berry wrote: >> >> David Leeming >> >> Solomon Islands, South Pacific > > We have consistently had similar problems in Nepal. I think it is a > hardware problem. > The core of the problem has yet to be identified but it certainly has hardware aspects. Here at 1cc we still don't have man

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread quozl
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:42:42PM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > One important point, make sure you hit the "Fn" key last when you do the > 4-finger salute. Agreed. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Four_finger_salute -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ __

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Bryan Berry
> From: "David Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Touch pads > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Some feedback on touch pads. I returned to the PNG trials s

Touch pads

2008-11-24 Thread David Leeming
Some feedback on touch pads. I returned to the PNG trials school of Giare last week to do some training, and noticed several of the XO-1s (received in June 08) and running version 8.2 suffering very badly from the touchpad problem. One boy's laptop was almost unusable. We tried chalk, the 4 f