Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] XO power management hindering collaboration

2011-05-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > This is with OLPC OS 10.1.3 (XO-AU 10.1.3-au2 - we haven't made any > changes that would affect reliability of collaboration). The XOs were > registered and using an XS. > > I've reported this at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10878 thank

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] XO power management hindering collaboration

2011-05-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 16 May 2011 04:51, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > In what build(s) is this occurring?  And are you using a schoolserver or > not? > > OLPC release 10.1.3 fixed some issues with XO 1.5's waking up in response to > multicast traffic on the network.  This is necessary for Salut/"under the > tree" usage

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] XO power management hindering collaboration

2011-05-15 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
In what build(s) is this occurring? And are you using a schoolserver or not? OLPC release 10.1.3 fixed some issues with XO 1.5's waking up in response to multicast traffic on the network. This is necessary for Salut/"under the tree" usage to work with power management. XO-1's with 10.1.3 are co

XO power management hindering collaboration

2011-05-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
It's looking to us that the aggressive power management enabled on the XO can sometimes create confusion when children are collaborating on activities. Take for example a turn-based game like Memorise. If a child is waiting for their turn, they might leave the XO untouched. In that time, power man

Re: XO power management

2011-04-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/19/2011 03:52 PM, Pablo Iguiniz wrote: > Hello Richard, > > This is Eng. Javier Iguiniz from Ceibal. Ismael has recently changed > work so I am now taking over part of his tasks, in particular the > testing related to the XO batteries. Welcome Javier. > I tried to catch up with the plan, so

Re: XO power management

2011-04-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/05/2011 09:33 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > Thanks! This is very useful information. I'll try to run some new tests > and try to look at the data more thoroughly. The new batteries' capacity > is pretty puzzling. I'll repeat the tests on these batteries and add a > couple more of new ones to ge

Re: XO power management

2011-04-05 Thread Ismael Schinca
Thanks! This is very useful information. I'll try to run some new tests and try to look at the data more thoroughly. The new batteries' capacity is pretty puzzling. I'll repeat the tests on these batteries and add a couple more of new ones to get more results. I think it's a good idea to think abou

Re: XO power management

2011-04-04 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/31/2011 03:43 PM, Ismael Schinca wrote: Richard, Ceibal about to start working heavily in reworking how to classify used batteries. Due to the number of batteries involved, we were asked to devise a "good enough" procedure to estimate the battery condition in less than 10 minutes. The plan

Re: XO power management

2011-04-02 Thread David Van Assche
Sounds like someone we really really need to help out with the power problems we have been havingf throughout SA These problems already originated in España so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a link... who knows, maybe we can fix it in a couple of days optimism ALWAYS amigo! kindr r

Re: XO power management

2011-03-31 Thread Ismael Schinca
Richard, Ceibal about to start working heavily in reworking how to classify used batteries. Due to the number of batteries involved, we were asked to devise a "good enough" procedure to estimate the battery condition in less than 10 minutes. The plan would be to get several parameters from the batt

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Fox
ismael wrote: > OK. Great. Is the attached version newer than the one in Sugar 0.88?? almost certainly. paul > Because the latest dextrose image is mainly based on Sugar 0.88 > > 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smith > > > On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > > > I'm planning to u

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
OK. Great. Is the attached version newer than the one in Sugar 0.88?? Because the latest dextrose image is mainly based on Sugar 0.88 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smith > On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I >> definately won'

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 10:41 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I definately won't be able to finish today because they all have different OS images and I think it would be best if I update them all (even for future tests). Maybe tomorrow, maybe monday

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
I'm planning to use different XO's, all of them 1.0 hardware. I definately won't be able to finish today because they all have different OS images and I think it would be best if I update them all (even for future tests). Maybe tomorrow, maybe monday. I think it will be very hard to perform the sa

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 10:31 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > If you run _exactly_ the same test under the same conditions. Same > temperature, same test duration, same XO, then it might be possible to > compare the current voltage, Battery temperature will also be a concern. If you test the discharge immed

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:45 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > We would really like to have a relatively accurate result *as fast as > possible *of the condition of a battery. That's what I'm trying to get to. > I could run the olpc-pwr-log on 15 batteries aprox. Used batteries but > in a "probably good" conditio

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:53 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > > If you would prefer a different test please let me know. oh and if this is a build that running powerd then you need to stop it or disable power management and turn off dpms screen blanking. On 1.5 dpms is not active but it is on XO 1.0. The ma

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:53 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > OK. Just read this email. > So the plan would be: > - Start from a fully charged battery, run the olpc-pwr-log script until > poweroff. > - Remove battery, plug XO, run script and insert battery until fully > charged. Yes. Or the other way around if

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
OK. Just read this email. So the plan would be: - Start from a fully charged battery, run the olpc-pwr-log script until poweroff. - Remove battery, plug XO, run script and insert battery until fully charged. If you would prefer a different test please let me know. Ismael 2011/3/24 Richard A. Smi

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
We would really like to have a relatively accurate result *as fast as possible *of the condition of a battery. That's what I'm trying to get to. I could run the olpc-pwr-log on 15 batteries aprox. Used batteries but in a "probably good" condition. I'm also trying to get some really bad but function

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:25 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > I have several batteries, some of them pretty old (that's the idea). A > couple of S/Ns: > > 00602 080616 110002384 > 00602 080608 11600 The mfg is embedded in the serial number pos 6-11 format YYMMDD So these 2 batteries where produced 2008/0

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 09:15 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Whats the serial number of your battery? You may also want to run a > olpc-pwr-log run with that battery so you can determine what the actual > capacity of the battery is. Even better you are in a position to help me figure out how best to deal w

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
That's exactly what I wanted to know. How was the SOC evaluated when the battery lost capacity. If there was some estimation on the battery loss or just a full capacity assumption and then early poweroff. I have several batteries, some of them pretty old (that's the idea). A couple of S/Ns: 006020

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/24/2011 08:55 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote: > Thanks, for starters this is really useful, because it's not at all > similar to what I've been observed. The computer powers off with battery > levels between 10-15% and the led starts blinking around 5-10%. I'm > using several batteries on the same

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
Thanks, for starters this is really useful, because it's not at all similar to what I've been observed. The computer powers off with battery levels between 10-15% and the led starts blinking around 5-10%. I'm using several batteries on the same XO 1.0 computer. Granted, the batteries are not fresh

Re: XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Fox
ismael wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm trying to perform some tests on XO battery life > performance and I have some questions which I couldn't find a clear answer > in the wiki or this list: i'm sure richard will chime in, but here's a start. > > - When the battery level is "critically low" t

XO power management

2011-03-24 Thread Ismael Schinca
Hello everyone, I'm trying to perform some tests on XO battery life performance and I have some questions which I couldn't find a clear answer in the wiki or this list: - When the battery level is "critically low" the OS (Sugar 0.88 based Dextrose) performs a safe shutdown. I would like to know wh

review of XO power management patches for upstream

2011-02-04 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I've finished working on the power management code, ready for review before I sent it upstream if anyone is interested. The patches are here: http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20110114/ The architecture is a bit different from before: olpc-xo1-pm (previously olpc-xo1) is a driver for the core powe