Pinebook 1080p with Sugar 0.117 and Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic for arm64

I've received a donation of a 11.6" Pinebook Linux Laptop from the PINE64 Community. This sub-$100 laptop performs nicely for the price. It can be charged over USB. The laptop came with Ubuntu 18.04 and KDE Neon. A very functional desktop environment. Sugar 0.117 can be used. The

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

he identity key, and how is it deleted? A cryptographic identitifier of the Sugar user, randomly created at first boot and stored in files; .sugar/default/owner.key and .sugar/default/owner.key.pub Delete it using rm, as it says here; http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects "Otherwise the

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

he identity key, and how is it deleted? A cryptographic identitifier of the Sugar user, randomly created at first boot and stored in files; .sugar/default/owner.key and .sugar/default/owner.key.pub Delete it using rm, as it says here; http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Imaging/Side_effects "Otherwise the

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameron wrote: > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM, James Cameron wrote: > without deleting the identity > key the activity collaboration feature will fail in strange ways. > What's the identity key, and how is it deleted? ___ Server-devel mailing list

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

PM, Adam Holt <[1]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <[2]tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

PM, Adam Holt <[1]h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <[2]tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

OLPC OS on the XO is configured for ownership style "one laptop per child". If you always want to delete the child's Sugar name, you might either change login scripts to delete it before starting, or assume a default. It simplifies getting started into a class. e.g. in the OLPC OS

Re: [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

OLPC OS on the XO is configured for ownership style "one laptop per child". If you always want to delete the child's Sugar name, you might either change login scripts to delete it before starting, or assume a default. It simplifies getting started into a class. e.g. in the OLPC OS

Re: sugar-install-bundle fails to behave like Browse when installing .xol bundle

Your bundle does not meet the requirements. I've downloaded it, and sugar-install-bundle says what is wrong; sugar3.bundle.bundle.MalformedBundleException: All files in the bundle must be inside a single directory whose name ends with '.activity' Sure enough, "unzip -l" shows the dire

Re: [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > >> A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to >> remove the Journal because of space

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > >> A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to >> remove the Journal because of space

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf > /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this comma

Re: [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > A teacher should never 'rm -rf /home/olpc/.sugar'. If the intent is to > remove the Journal because of space considerations, 'rm -rf > /home/olpc/sugar/datastore' is sufficient. After this comma

sugar-install-bundle fails to behave like Browse when installing .xol bundle

Clicking on http://download.unleashkids.org/HaitiOS/bundles/livreshaiti.xol works in Sugar's Browse activity on OLPC OS 13.2.9, correctly loading books into Sugar. However doing the same thing from the command-line ("sugar-install-bundle livreshaiti.xol") does not work :/ Does anyon

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

s in the main folder, it is shown instead of the list. The url of an > XO is shown in the frame. This can be used by other xo on that network > using Browse. Enter: http://192.168.1.11:8008 where 8008 is the > SimpleHTMLServer port. > > Currently Sugar provides /home/olpc/Library as the

Re: [UKids] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

s in the main folder, it is shown instead of the list. The url of an > XO is shown in the frame. This can be used by other xo on that network > using Browse. Enter: http://192.168.1.11:8008 where 8008 is the > SimpleHTMLServer port. > > Currently Sugar provides /home/olpc/Library as the

Re: [Server-devel] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

path/test.pdf, check if that works first. You might just be able to have the .xol's index.html contain the file://path as a point to the pdf file. Hope that helps.​ " Presumably by then installing the .xol in Sugar -> Terminal Activity as > follows? > >sugar-install-bundle /run/med

[Server-devel] easiest way to automate install of a collection 12+ PDF's onto Sugar on XOs?

Is building an .xol bundle/collection/file (containing all the PDF's) the easiest way? What's the easiest way to build up an .xol of PDF's if so? Presumably by then installing the .xol in Sugar -> Terminal Activity as follows? sugar-install-bundle /run/media/olpc// Or is there much bet

Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.9 with Sugar 0.112

G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.9 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.112 on Fedora 18, with updated activities Browse-157.4, Calculate-44, Chat-84, Clock-19, GetBooks-17, Help-20.1, ImageViewer-63, Implode-18, Jukebox-33, Log-38, Maze-27, Memorize-53

Re: [IAEP] [UKids] Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

ionel, >>>>> >>>>> Congrats. >>>>> >>>>> Quick question: What is the procedure for an app developer to get a >>>>> new version into your distro? Turtle Blocks has made many advances since >>>>> the version you p

Re: [IAEP] [UKids] Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

> *From:* IAEP <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Samson Goddy > <samsongo...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 7, 2017 10:24:33 AM > *To:* Steve Thomas > *Cc:* iaep; OLPC Devel; Sugar-dev Devel; unleashk...@googlegroups.com; > Lion

Re: [UKids] Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

t; Lionel, >>>> >>>> Congrats. >>>> >>>> Quick question: What is the procedure for an app developer to get a new >>>> version into your distro? Turtle Blocks has made many advances since the >>>> version you package. >>>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

n 6, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Lionel Laské <lionel.la...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I'm proud to announce the eighth version (0.8) of Sugarizer, a taste of >> Sugar for any device. >> >> >> >> http://

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

gt; > Hi all, > > > > I'm proud to announce the eighth version (0.8) of Sugarizer, a taste of > Sugar for any device. > > > > http://sugarizer.org > > > > Main features in this new version: > >- Speak activity: The famous Sugar Speak activity:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

On the 6th of January 2017 at 09:02, Lionel Laské wrote: Hi all, I'm proud to announce the eighth version (0.8) of Sugarizer, a taste of Sugar for any device. Yo [...] New in Sugarizer 0.8 for Android is "Sugarizer OS". Sugarizer OS is a way to use Sugarizer as your Androi

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.8 with Sugar 0.110

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 01:20:54PM -0800, Alex Perez wrote: > Thanks for the release. It is much appreciated. So far, I’ve flashed > it just fine on several production XO-1’s I have, both on the > internal NAND as well as to a 32GB Samsung (Class 6) SD card, > however in the case of the SD card

Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.8 with Sugar 0.110

G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.8 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.110 on Fedora 18, with updated activities Speak-52, Measure-53, Maze-26.1, Implode-17, GetBooks-16.2, Clock-18.1, and Chat-83. Details of new features, fixes, known issues, and how

Re: [Server-devel] Is XSCE a Sugar Labs project?

Thanks Anish :) ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] Is XSCE a Sugar Labs project?

I cannot say about SL membership but the XSCE does certainly cater to non-sugar audiences. Most of the XSCE deployments in India I know of are non sugar based. That said, a lot of XSCE deployments also use sugar and olpc laptops. Recent builds of XSCE also contain sugarizer, and the software

[Server-devel] Is XSCE a Sugar Labs project?

Hi In http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg17326.html Caryl Bigenho <ca...@laptop.org> asked me to ask you all if you consider XSCE a Sugar Labs project. I'm assuming the answer is "no" but I was asked to confirm :) As a follow up question, is anyone cont

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

Problem 1: Sugar now has a "register again" which I have only used to connect to the same server. I guess that it's hard to do a ssh connection to a different server (same IP) without ssh complaining about a possible man in the middle attack. This is the situation describe

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

w section? The Network section has become >>>> cluttered with radio device controls, access point cache control, >>>> jabber server, social help, and soon proxy settings.) >>>> >>>> Wouldn't the backup related fields be more relevant in the backu

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.7 with Sugar 0.108

mes & the Sugar 0.108 Team!! > > Aside: i haven't given up (yet) on a wider array of quality learning videos > (from Internet-in-a-Box 2.0 etc) becoming playable on XO-1 in 2016 so many > years later.  Issues you've well-documented @ [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ > Release_notes

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.7 with Sugar 0.108

Tremendous news, Profound thanks James & the Sugar 0.108 Team!! Aside: i haven't given up (yet) on a wider array of quality learning videos (from Internet-in-a-Box 2.0 etc) becoming playable on XO-1 in 2016 so many years later. Issues you've well-documented @ http://wiki.laptop.or

Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.7 with Sugar 0.108

G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.7 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.108 on Fedora 18, with a few activities upgraded. Details of new features, fixes, known issues, and how to download, install or upgrade can be found in the release notes

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.7 is available for your device

GREAT :) On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Tim Moody <t...@timmoody.com> wrote: > congratulations. > > > > *From:* unleashk...@googlegroups.com [mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Lionel Laské > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:07 AM > *

[Server-devel] Tony Anderson's platform, running for Sugar Labs Oversight Board

Very encouraging to see Sugaristas' Long Term Support discussions of any kind: how to innovate sustaining old hardware with new software, how to balance hacker contributors' critical motivations with 3rd world educators' excruciating economics, how to think about Server-Sugar interactions evolving

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-Jamaica] Candidacy for Sugar Labs Oversight Board

Congrats to Sameer for taking Sugar Lab's future very seriously! Those who consider Sugarizer.org to be part of that future, please join us live with its founder Lionel Laske 9:30AM NYC Time Wedn to explore such possibilities, alongside possible integration with School Server / XSCE 6.1

[Server-devel] Sugar Labs Election/Deadlines Finalized

Please forward below, to others who have a stake in the future of Sugar - All those active with Sugar (on XO's, with http://Sugarizer.org, or otherwise) should bring their deployment/implementation/community insights to the table, taking the choices we face in our 2nd decade of OLPC/Sugar very

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.6 with Sugar 0.107

ild first as an intermediate step? > > > > Caryl > > PS I don't know which build since I'm no > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:57 PM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > G'day, > > > >

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.6 with Sugar 0.107

t; > > > > Caryl > > > PS I don't know which build since I'm no > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:57 PM, James Cameron <[8]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > &g

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.6 with Sugar 0.107

u...@laptop.org> > wrote: > > > > > > G'day, > > > > > > We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.6 for XO-1, > > > XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. > > > > > > It is Sugar 0.107 on Fedora 18, with a fe

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.6 with Sugar 0.107

> > On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:57 PM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > G'day, > > > > We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.6 for XO-1, > > XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. > > > > It is Sugar 0.107 on Fedora 18, with

Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.6 with Sugar 0.107

G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.6 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.107 on Fedora 18, with a few activities upgraded. Details of new features, fixes, known issues, and how to download, install or upgrade can be found in the release notes

Re: [Server-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Sep 28, 2015 6:00 AM, "James Cameron" wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 03:59:38PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > > But I finally got it! WiFi password was ALSO cached in: > > > >/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/keys-WAN > > You're not using an OLPC build, the latest is based

Re: [Server-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

hing much later than Fedora 18. Care to share? There are probably others who may benefit from a working build more recent than Fedora 18. (After Fedora 18, Network Manager was changed to store connections differently.) So your question wasn't really anything to do with Sugar, in the end, since S

Re: how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

hing much later than Fedora 18. Care to share? There are probably others who may benefit from a working build more recent than Fedora 18. (After Fedora 18, Network Manager was changed to store connections differently.) So your question wasn't really anything to do with Sugar, in the end, since S

Re: how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Sep 28, 2015 6:00 AM, "James Cameron" wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 03:59:38PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: > > But I finally got it! WiFi password was ALSO cached in: > > > >/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/keys-WAN > > You're not using an OLPC build, the latest is based

Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

adam wrote: > >> > > > >> > >/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ that's is where the config lives on the machine i'm looking at (running 13.2.0). try: cd /etc sudo grep -R . cd /home/olpc sudo grep -R . on older releases, sugar ke

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

adam wrote: > >> > > > >> > >/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ that's is where the config lives on the machine i'm looking at (running 13.2.0). try: cd /etc sudo grep -R . cd /home/olpc sudo grep -R . on older releases, sugar ke

Re: [Server-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: > adam wrote: > > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a > WiFi > > credential, even after reboot of the XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.106.0, the > > password is cl

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

, 2015 at 12:06 PM Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > adam wrote: > > > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a > > > WiFi > > > credential, even after reboot of the XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.106

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

e: >> >> >> >> > On September 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: >> > >> > >> > adam wrote: >> > > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a >> > > WiFi

Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

e: >> >> >> >> > On September 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: >> > >> > >> > adam wrote: >> > > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a >> > > WiFi

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net> wrote: > So, it's not in the gnome keyring. is it in > /home/olpc/.sugar/default/nm/networks.cfg ? > Nothing obvious in /home/olpc/.sugar/default and no nm within /home/olpc/.sugar/default on this XO-1.5. In fact

Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net> wrote: > So, it's not in the gnome keyring. is it in > /home/olpc/.sugar/default/nm/networks.cfg ? > Nothing obvious in /home/olpc/.sugar/default and no nm within /home/olpc/.sugar/default on this XO-1.5. In fact

Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

ry! Somewhere in the bowels of Fedora presumably? To > triple-check all assumptions, I've rebooted many times and the > very-much-passworded WiFi auto-connects every time. (Auto-connected from > Sugar anyway, though not auto-connecting from Gnome seemingl, when I tried > rebooting fr

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

ry! Somewhere in the bowels of Fedora presumably? To > triple-check all assumptions, I've rebooted many times and the > very-much-passworded WiFi auto-connects every time. (Auto-connected from > Sugar anyway, though not auto-connecting from Gnome seemingl, when I tried > rebooting fr

Re: how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

adam wrote: > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a WiFi > credential, even after reboot of the XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.106.0, the > password is clearly still buried+working in the system somewhere. under sugar, i think it's in the control panel, u

Re: how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: > adam wrote: > > "rm /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/key_" does not fully delete a > WiFi > > credential, even after reboot of the XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.106.0, the > > password is cl

Re: [IAEP] Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.5 with Sugar 0.106

Great! Congratulations to all! On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:56 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.5 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.106 on Fedora 18, with Social Help, new activities, and improved display

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.5 with Sugar 0.106

On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 04:17:55PM -0700, Thomas Gilliard wrote: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/official/13.2.5-17/fs2.zip  is 404 Thanks. Fixed. Was a missing symbolic link. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.5 with Sugar 0.106

http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/official/13.2.5-17/fs2.zip is 404 Tom Gilliard On 07/09/2015 02:56 PM, James Cameron wrote: G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.5 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.106 on Fedora 18, with Social Help, new

Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.5 with Sugar 0.106

G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.5 for XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4. It is Sugar 0.106 on Fedora 18, with Social Help, new activities, and improved display controls in the frame. Details of new features, known issues, and how to download, install or upgrade can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Compatibility with web activities in F18 images

Thanks, I've pushed this to the v7.0 branch on olpc-os-builder. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announcing OLPC OS 13.2.4 for XO-1

Nice!!! -walter On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:35 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: G'day, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 13.2.4 for XO-1. It is Sugar 0.104 on Fedora 18, with a fix to using Browse with Google Search. To install on XO-1: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

There are at least two types of deployments/customers that Sugar has. The first is the small, volunteer group. To them, it doesn't matter what OS they actually are using, or (to some extent) how well tested things are. They just want to come in, try something with their students

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:04 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 10:28:06AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: The obvious counterargument would be that a deployment might want to deploy

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:49 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 11:28:42AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: When I talked with deployments and they ask for Ubuntu, and I ask why, what they really want is Long Time Support. No deployment change their image more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

, myself and others put in a lot of effort back in the F-14/15 days to get everything upstream into Fedora. I continue to maintain that and produce a Sugar on a Stick release with every Fedora release. In the last release Daniel and I was involved in the delta between Fedora and the OLPC release

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

and internally-driven priorities. Have no paid devops staff or worldwide priority list? You need to be on Fedora or *never* ever change. SugarLabs being in that place, with people like you to take forward Sugar packages on the popular, RHEL-upstream (in practice) Fedora, there is no good reason

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: The obvious counterargument would be that a deployment might want to deploy your XO-Next (whatever it is) alongside existing XO laptops, allowing all of them to have the same configuration. From my memory of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 03:59:10PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Has anyone actually booted the latest Ubuntu LTS on any/all the XOs? I've tried it on XO-1.5, and it was doable, but lots of missing things. My estimate to fix is greater than the size of work to stabilise Fedora 20 or Fedora 22.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 11:28:42AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: When I talked with deployments and they ask for Ubuntu, and I ask why, what they really want is Long Time Support. No deployment change their image more than once a year. In fact, change a image is a logistic challenge for most of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:21:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: OLPC already appears to be going the Ubuntu LTS route When/where can I read more about what OLPC is doing with Ubuntu LTS? Apologies for the lazyweb request. Martin pgpmmvPQ1vjFZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

-14/15 days to get everything upstream into Fedora. I continue to maintain that and produce a Sugar on a Stick release with every Fedora release. In the last release Daniel and I was involved in the delta between Fedora and the OLPC release was very minimal. Basically kernel, firmware, and some

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 10:28:06AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: The obvious counterargument would be that a deployment might want to deploy your XO-Next (whatever it is) alongside existing XO laptops, allowing all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

; 1. our installed base express interest in Fedora or Ubuntu, Daniel Drake, myself and others put in a lot of effort back in the F-14/15 days to get everything upstream into Fedora. I continue to maintain that and produce a Sugar on a Stick release with every Fedora release. Agreed, and my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

No official announcements yet. Samuel was looking at the bug database, because he knows where to look :) Gonzalo On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:21:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: OLPC already appears to be going

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

and kept us involved to resist changes that cause damage. We were there once. It required a low but continuous engineering effort. It use to take around an hour to cut a release from Fedora/Sugar repos. Quite often the delta from a patch for a fix being created and a new OS was in the hours

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 12:56:32AM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote: On 06/05/15 18:10, James Cameron wrote: 1. our installed base express interest in Fedora or Ubuntu, I wonder how accurate this is? No idea. Many times upstream, or suppliers, tend to lump entire deployments into one

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

Hi Sam, - Who actually is using/testing these images? I downloaded it (XO-1 and XO-4 versions). - Why? To test if all is working in a new Fedora, and to try find a solution for the Browse problems in the XO-1. Sadly wifi connectivity is not working ok in the F20 images. - Is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 09:19:45AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think we should try make a build using CentOS. I don't know if have all the packages we need, but the rate of change in Fedora was difficult to follow when OLPC had a team dedicated and now is almost impossible. The true is we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 10:49:47AM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: They all seem to want a better browser and better codec support to view various+sundry videos, within Sugar ideally, but if that's not possible then within Gnome. One group per week asks me for the above, above all else (often more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 09:29:46PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: It might be possible for this new builder to be eventually taught to handle XOs. There was no significant interest in my previous builder uxo, which already knows how to handle XOs. The recent posts on devel@ of people trying

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

The obvious counterargument would be that a deployment might want to deploy your XO-Next (whatever it is) alongside existing XO laptops, allowing all of them to have the same configuration. There's plenty of blame to go around in terms of re-inventing the wheel and lack of communication. There

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

images more widely available. 4. Personally I would argue that a CentOS or another long-term build may be the best approach for XOs. Sugar is in EPEL 6, and likely could be added to EPEL 7. It should surprise no one at this point that the list of personnel on OLPC's web site is years

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

. And if it is required, the same set of Sugar activities or the same user level desktop will suffice. The software layers are well isolated; there's no reason to have the same things all the way down to the kernel. Since OLPC already appears to be going the Ubuntu LTS route, I would argue it would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On 06/05/15 18:10, James Cameron wrote: 1. our installed base express interest in Fedora or Ubuntu, I wonder how accurate this is? Many times upstream, or suppliers, tend to lump entire deployments into one person or group. Did you mean administrators, technicians, teachers, or users? --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

is using/testing these images? Not me, yet. * Why? I maintained in the past official images for Peru. * Is there a reason you are not looking into using an official (OLPC or deployment) build? Yes we like to roll our own to include native languages, features (e.g. Sugar Network), etc

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

progress might be possible on various XO laptops? Very wishful, most of the server stuff would already be in CentOS/EPEL, to get the the sugar stack and dependencies in would be a reasonable chunk of work. The standard packages in Fedora could easily be branched for EPEL7 and would all be compatible

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build. I have found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build. I have found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies worked out: - olpc-library needs to depend on python-jinja2, not

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Fedora Flock Conference

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: Are we planning to do anything with Sugar at the Fedora Flock Conference (August 12-15, Rochester NY - www.flocktofedora.org) this year? The call for talks just ended although it might be possible to sneak one

Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 05:56:22AM +, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: James wrote: To check, make sure the laptop is unlocked, and add this to the second line of the boot/olpc.fth file: dev /sd patch 2drop cb! sdhci-card-power-off dend Does this keep the SD slot powered only

Re: [support-gang] XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash

To check, make sure the laptop is unlocked, and add this to the second line of the boot/olpc.fth file: dev /sd patch 2drop cb! sdhci-card-power-off dend Does this keep the SD slot powered only when is occupied or regardless? Does the OS takes over the SD slot power management

Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash

, devel@lists.laptop.org, sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash Message-ID: 20150408034727.gi9...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Browse is one of the most heavily used activities when internet

Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash

question is ... when is it that the XO-1 will both read from NAND flash _and_ from SD card at the same time? Probably never. Data that moves from NAND flash to memory happens during Sugar startup, and the first time an activity is started. It can also happen if a different activity is started

Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash

Perhaps silly Q... Any benefit just putting swap and static content on the SD? Kg Sent from my currently functioning gadget    Original Message   From: James Cameron Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 19:31 To: devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@lists.laptop.org

  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >