Re: [O-MPI devel] FYI: Failing intel tests

2005-07-18 Thread Tim S. Woodall
Josh Hursey wrote: So I have been working a variety of platforms [x86 32 bit, x86 64 bit, PPC 64 bit]. As of SVN Revision 6541 below are the current failures from the intel_tests suite. For all of these tests I used "tcp,self" PTLs and the TEG PML. On x86-32, x86-64, PPC64 --

[O-MPI devel] FYI: Failing intel tests

2005-07-18 Thread Josh Hursey
So I have been working a variety of platforms [x86 32 bit, x86 64 bit, PPC 64 bit]. As of SVN Revision 6541 below are the current failures from the intel_tests suite. For all of these tests I used "tcp,self" PTLs and the TEG PML. On x86-32, x86-64, PPC64 - MPI_Send_self

Re: [O-MPI devel] OMPI_MCA_ptl_base_exclude=sm

2005-07-18 Thread George Bosilca
There are several possibilities to make this option the default one. The simplest one is to use the mca-params.conf file. In your home directory create a .openmpi directory and inside create a file called mca-params.conf. You can add in this file all options that you want to be the default

Re: [O-MPI devel] July meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Added. I've now got: - ORTE sub group: - simplifying GPR access (if possible) - multi-cell RTE - external perspective from Eclipse guys Since you and Ralph are not core OMPI developers and not the focus of the rest of the meeting, let's coordinate offline and come up with a time (and lo

Re: [O-MPI devel] July meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Jul 18, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Ralph Castain wrote: 1. RedStorm design - what are we going to do about the RTE? That's what I meant by "future plans", but I could certainly be more explicit. :-) 2. Multi-cell RTE - I've been working on this (finally set it aside to complete the scalable s

Re: [O-MPI devel] July meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Greg Watson
Would you be interested in an external tool perspective on orte? Greg On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's the topics that I have for the July meeting (did I miss anything?). I don't really have a schedule -- only some things need to assigned times (e.g., the collectives

Re: [O-MPI devel] July meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
Yo Jeff Couple of things you might want to add: 1. RedStorm design - what are we going to do about the RTE? 2. Multi-cell RTE - I've been working on this (finally set it aside to complete the scalable startup stuff first), but it is complex and might merit some discussion with those interested.

[O-MPI devel] OMPI_MCA_ptl_base_exclude=sm

2005-07-18 Thread Greg Watson
Currently I have to set this environment variable on bproc/x86_64 or mpirun just hangs. Would it be possible to make this the default setting until it's fixed? Greg

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread bmchap...@earthlink.net
Thanks to Edgar for copying me on this: it sounds like I asked at the right time. There were some OpenMP-internal discussions on this a couple of years ago, and a straw proposal, but at that time there was no obvious interest on the MPI side. So we'd have to go back and look at the ideas that came

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Tim S. Woodall
Torsten Hoefler wrote: Hi, Wednesday, 27 Jul, 8-11am MT (I think that's 4-7pm DE time, right?) yes, it's ok for me - I'll ask the vcc and reply to this mail if they have any problems. Can you do the 28th, too? I'd prevfer the 27th and 28th if possible (vs. 26th and 27th) b

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
Tim is taking care of this arrangement. I believe (from prior chat with Cindy) that she may already be familiar with her equivalent at your location. > > As for tech assistance, contact Cindy at LANL (Ralph has her contact > > info -- indeed, she might proactively contact your people anyway, to

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Excellent. Seems like several people have thought of this at the same time (I was pinged about this by the IB vendors). I know that others on the team have more experience in this area than I do, so I personally welcome all information. I've read a few papers on the topic (general/simplified

[O-MPI devel] July meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Here's the topics that I have for the July meeting (did I miss anything?). I don't really have a schedule -- only some things need to assigned times (e.g., the collectives meeting(s)). - All: Current status, future plans/goals (presentation from each organization) - Jeff: IU - Tim: LANL

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Richard L. Graham
To add to this, I would suggest not coupling processor affinity and memory locality at the component level. At some level you do need to tie these together, but there are other components that also need to be considered, such as NIC locality, and probably other things too ... Rich On Jul 18, 20

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Torsten Hoefler
Hi, > >> Wednesday, 27 Jul, 8-11am MT (I think that's 4-7pm DE time, right?) > > yes, it's ok for me - I'll ask the vcc and reply to this mail if they > > have any problems. > > Can you do the 28th, too? I'd prevfer the 27th and 28th if possible > (vs. 26th and 27th) because the 26th is our firs

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Edgar Gabriel
We have currently Barbara Chapman from the University of Houston as a guest scientist here at Stuttgart. Most of you might now, that Barbara is working on compiler design and OpenMP issues. This afternoon she dropped in my office and asked me, whether the Open MPI group has thought/discussed pr

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Matt Leininger
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 08:28 -0400, Jeff Squyres wrote: > On Jul 18, 2005, at 2:50 AM, Matt Leininger wrote: > > >> Generally speaking, if you launch <=N processes in a job on a node > >> (where N == number of CPUs on that node), then we set processor > >> affinity. We set each process's affinity

Re: [O-MPI devel] Presentation of organization goals

2005-07-18 Thread Tim S. Woodall
I'd be glad to provide an overview of LANLs proposed '06 OpenMPI development. Tim Jeff Squyres wrote: A month or two ago, I gave the LANL guys an overview of IU's goals with respect to OMPI. There were several "Ohhh! So *that's* why you guys were asking for X, Y, and Z..." from the LANL guy

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Torsten Hoefler wrote: Wednesday, 27 Jul, 8-11am MT (I think that's 4-7pm DE time, right?) yes, it's ok for me - I'll ask the vcc and reply to this mail if they have any problems. Can you do the 28th, too? I'd prevfer the 27th and 28th if possible (vs. 26th and

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Edgar Gabriel
I am happy with any of the two dates either... whichever is more convinient for LANL... Jeff Squyres wrote: I'm happy with either. Europe -- comments? On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Ralph Castain wrote: Cindy indicated she was willing to come in early - she needs about an hour to set thing

Re: [O-MPI devel] Presentation of organization goals

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Excellent. On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Ralph Castain wrote: I can talk about OpenRTE, if you want - pretty short, but could describe the research directions being discussed with others. On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:39, Jeff Squyres wrote:A month or two ago, I gave the LANL guys an overview

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Torsten Hoefler
Hi, > Wednesday, 27 Jul, 8-11am MT (I think that's 4-7pm DE time, right?) yes, it's ok for me - I'll ask the vcc and reply to this mail if they have any problems. Bye, Torsten -- "Elchwurst enthält kein Rindfleisch" Schild bei IKEA

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
I'm happy with either. Europe -- comments? On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Ralph Castain wrote: Cindy indicated she was willing to come in early - she needs about an hour to set things up. 8:30am might be more polite for her, but I suspect she'd be willing to do 8am to accommodate Europe if ne

[O-MPI devel] SSIMS meeting

2005-07-18 Thread Craig Rasmussen
Jeff, I'm currently at the SciDAC2 SSIMS meeting talking about software integration, maintenance, and support funding (on the order of $2 million). I promised Rich I'd keep all informed. We've set up a IRC channel (separate email). Craig

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Torsten Hoefler
Hi, > Did we ever set a day/time for the collectives meeting at LANL next > week? (we may have and I've forgotten...?) I reserved the AccessGrid from 25.-27. of July. > I ask because those of us involved in that meeting will need to reserve > time on the Access Grid and coordinate with the rem

Re: [O-MPI devel] Presentation of organization goals

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
I can talk about OpenRTE, if you want - pretty short, but could describe the research directions being discussed with others. On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:39, Jeff Squyres wrote: > A month or two ago, I gave the LANL guys an overview of IU's goals with > respect to OMPI. There were several "Ohhh!

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
Cindy indicated she was willing to come in early - she needs about an hour to set things up. 8:30am might be more polite for her, but I suspect she'd be willing to do 8am to accommodate Europe if necessary. On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:48, Jeff Squyres wrote: > Ok, since no one made a suggestion yet

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Rich L. Graham
Please make sure that foreign nationals have the building this is going to take place in (presumably, ACL-west) on their paperwork, or else they can't participate. Rich On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Did we ever set a day/time for the collectives meeting at LANL next week? (

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Ok, since no one made a suggestion yet :-), I nominate the following two times: Wednesday, 27 Jul, 8-11am MT (I think that's 4-7pm DE time, right?) Thursday, 28 Jul, 8-11am MT (is that too early for Cindy? I seem to recall that she has to get in early to set things up...?) I think 6 hours i

[O-MPI devel] Presentation of organization goals

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
A month or two ago, I gave the LANL guys an overview of IU's goals with respect to OMPI. There were several "Ohhh! So *that's* why you guys were asking for X, Y, and Z..." from the LANL guys during my presentation. As such, I think it was really helpful for everyone to understand our motivat

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
The day/time was never set that I know about. Cindy Sievers is still holding the room, but we do need to let her know ASAP the times when you want the system operational. On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 06:59, Jeff Squyres wrote: > Did we ever set a day/time for the collectives meeting at LANL next > wee

Re: [O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Edgar Gabriel
don't forget Stuttgart in the list of remote sites :-). Rainer will be at the meeting, but I can only attend through Access Grid. Thanks Edgar Jeff Squyres wrote: Did we ever set a day/time for the collectives meeting at LANL next week? (we may have and I've forgotten...?) I ask because th

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Ralph Castain
Did a little digging into this last night, and finally figured out what you were getting at in your comments here. Yeah, I think an "affinity" framework would definitely be the best approach - can handle both cpu and memory, I imagine. Isn't clear how pressing that is as it is mostly an optimizati

Re: [O-MPI devel] processor affinity

2005-07-18 Thread Rich L. Graham
On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:28 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: On Jul 18, 2005, at 2:50 AM, Matt Leininger wrote: Generally speaking, if you launch <=N processes in a job on a node (where N == number of CPUs on that node), then we set processor affinity. We set each process's affinity to the CPU number ac

[O-MPI devel] collectives discussion @LANL

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff Squyres
Did we ever set a day/time for the collectives meeting at LANL next week? (we may have and I've forgotten...?) I ask because those of us involved in that meeting will need to reserve time on the Access Grid and coordinate with the remote sites for participation. AFAIK, we have 2 remote site