[OMPI devel] SHMEM v1.7 merge proposal

2013-10-28 Thread Barrett, Brian W
All - Ralph and I talked today about the logistics of bringing the OpenSHMEM code to the 1.7 release branch, as it's now a fairly large set of changes from the trunk. What we propose is to follow the same proceedure we used when merging in the RTE framework change, which is essentially a staging

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Barrett, Brian W
How are you going to more effectively transition codes between 1.7 and 1.9 than from internal code to external code? Decisions made by Mellanox internally should not negatively impact the community code base. Brian On 10/28/13 1:48 PM, "Mike Dubman" wrote: >pgas/shmem on top of OMPI 1.6 eixtst

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Mike Dubman
pgas/shmem on top of OMPI 1.6 eixtsts for ~1year as internal mellanox tree with customer base and set of applications using shmem* friends. we are in process of droping shmem* friends and using osh* ones in internal codes, but for some codes it will take time to transit. It would help us to maint

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Barrett, Brian W
What's the advantage of that approach? You're adding legacy baggage to an unreleased product, which does not seem like good development practice. Or, put it another way, one of the 1.7 Release Managers can't see a reason that we should bring shmemcc and friends into 1.7, so convince me. Brian On

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Mike Dubman
I would prefer to keep both names for a while and depricate them gradually. I suggest to release 1st drop with both namings and drop legacy right after that. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote: > I'm not sure what we gain by having them. It's a new (to us) product; > let's

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Barrett, Brian W
I'm not sure what we gain by having them. It's a new (to us) product; let's not support legacy names. Brian On 10/28/13 11:40 AM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" wrote: >Ah -- my mistake in the original post: I now see that it installs *both* >shmemcc and oshcc (and friends). I didn't notice the os

Re: [OMPI devel] openmpi with FT enabled

2013-10-28 Thread Ralph Castain
Unfortunately, the entire infrastructure is currently broken. :-( The values in that file are MCA parameters - the C code just checks to see which params are set in various places and takes appropriate action. We planned to do a "reset" to re-enable C/R since ORTE is now completely async, the M

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
Ah -- my mistake in the original post: I now see that it installs *both* shmemcc and oshcc (and friends). I didn't notice the osh* versions in my initial post. The question still remains, though -- do we still want these names installed: - $ cd $prefix/bin $ ls -1 shmem* shmemcc@ shmemfort

Re: [OMPI devel] openmpi with FT enabled

2013-10-28 Thread Adrian Reber
Thanks. That's okay. That's why I am looking at it. To get it working. It is just not clear how the values from ft-enable-cr are supposed to be used. They are used in the code as if they are variables. They are defined, however, in a text file (which is not in C). My question is how are the values

Re: [OMPI devel] [EXTERNAL] Re: shmem vs. oshmem

2013-10-28 Thread Mike Dubman
Thanks Brian, The code in trunk already generates: oshccoshfort oshmem_info oshrun On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Barrett, Brian W wrote: > i thought I mentioned this before, but the compilers should be oshcc, > oshCC, and oshfort, with the starter named oshrun, according to Ap

Re: [OMPI devel] openmpi with FT enabled

2013-10-28 Thread Ralph Castain
I'm afraid C/R isn't supported in the trunk nor 1.7 release series at this time. We're looking to restore that support next year as part of the 1.9 release series. On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > I am trying to compile openmpi (Revision: 29539) from svn > with '--with-ft=cr

[OMPI devel] openmpi with FT enabled

2013-10-28 Thread Adrian Reber
I am trying to compile openmpi (Revision: 29539) from svn with '--with-ft=cr'. I get a compilation error and I am lost how to solve it: ../../../../opal/mca/base/mca_base_components_open.c: In function 'open_components': ../../../../opal/mca/base/mca_base_components_open.c:144:9: error: 'mca_ba