Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-27 Thread George Bosilca
You were limpid. What we're trying to say here, it's that the solution you described few emails ago, doesn't work. At least it doesn't work for what we want to do (i.e. what Aurelien described in his first email). We [really] need 2 separate MPI worlds, that we will connect at a later momen

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-27 Thread Ralph Castain
Guess I was unclear, George - I don't know enough about Aurelien's app to know if it is capable of (or trying to) run as one job, or not. What has been described on this thread to-date is, in fact, a corner case. Hence the proposal of another way to possibly address a corner case without disruptin

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-27 Thread George Bosilca
It's not about the app. It's about the MPI standard. With one mpirun you start one MPI application (SPMD or MPMD but still only one). The first impact of this, is all processes started with one mpirun command will belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD. Our mpirun is in fact equivalent to the mp

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-27 Thread Ralph Castain
On 7/26/07 4:22 PM, "Aurelien Bouteiller" wrote: >> mpirun -hostfile big_pool -n 10 -host 1,2,3,4 application : -n 2 -host >> 99,100 ft_server > > This will not work: this is a way to launch MIMD jobs, that share the > same COMM_WORLD. Not the way to launch two different applications that > i

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Aurelien Bouteiller
mpirun -hostfile big_pool -n 10 -host 1,2,3,4 application : -n 2 -host 99,100 ft_server This will not work: this is a way to launch MIMD jobs, that share the same COMM_WORLD. Not the way to launch two different applications that interact trough Accept/Connect. Direct consequence on simple NA

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Ralph H Castain
On 7/26/07 2:24 PM, "Aurelien Bouteiller" wrote: > Ralph H Castain wrote: >> After some investigation, I'm afraid that I have to report that this - as >> far as I understand what you are doing - may no longer work in Open MPI in >> the future (and I'm pretty sure isn't working in the trunk tod

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Aurelien Bouteiller
Ralph H Castain wrote: After some investigation, I'm afraid that I have to report that this - as far as I understand what you are doing - may no longer work in Open MPI in the future (and I'm pretty sure isn't working in the trunk today except [maybe] in the special case of hostfile - haven't ver

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Ralph H Castain
Hi Aurelien Perhaps some bad news on this subject - see below. On 7/26/07 7:53 AM, "Ralph H Castain" wrote: > > > > On 7/26/07 7:33 AM, "rolf.vandeva...@sun.com" > wrote: > >> Aurelien Bouteiller wrote: >>> Currently I proceed to two different mpirun with a single orte >>> seed holding

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Ralph H Castain
On 7/26/07 7:33 AM, "rolf.vandeva...@sun.com" wrote: > Aurelien Bouteiller wrote: > >> Hi Ralph and everyone, >> >> I just want to make sure the proposed usecases does not break one of the >> current open MPI feature I require. For FT purposes, I need to get some >> specific hosts (lets say

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-26 Thread Rolf . Vandevaart
Aurelien Bouteiller wrote: Hi Ralph and everyone, I just want to make sure the proposed usecases does not break one of the current open MPI feature I require. For FT purposes, I need to get some specific hosts (lets say with a better MTBF). Those hosts are not part of the MPI_COMM_WORLD but

Re: [OMPI devel] Hostfiles - yet again

2007-07-25 Thread Aurelien Bouteiller
Hi Ralph and everyone, I just want to make sure the proposed usecases does not break one of the current open MPI feature I require. For FT purposes, I need to get some specific hosts (lets say with a better MTBF). Those hosts are not part of the MPI_COMM_WORLD but are used to deploy FT service