Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-24 Thread Bert Wesarg via devel
FYI, debian libtool packages take care of this with this patch: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtool/tree/debian/patches/link_all_deplibs.patch Best, Bert On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:01 AM Christopher Samuel wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > On 17/11/18 5:13 am, Barrett, Brian via devel wrote

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-18 Thread Christopher Samuel
Hi Brian, On 17/11/18 5:13 am, Barrett, Brian via devel wrote: > Unfortunately, I don’t have a good idea of what to do now. We already > did the damage on the 3.x series. Our backwards compatibility testing > (as lame as it is) just links libmpi, so it’s all good. But if anyone > uses libtool,

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-16 Thread Barrett, Brian via devel
Gilles - Look at the output of Chris’s libtool link line; you can see it’s explicitly adding a dependency on libopen-pal.so to the test binary. Once it does that, it’s game over, the OS linking system will, rightly, complain about us changing the c:r:a in the libtool version system in a way th

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-14 Thread Gilles Gouaillardet
Chris, I am a bit puzzled at your logs. As far as I understand, ldd libhhgttg.so.1 reports that libopen-rte.so.40 and libopen-pal.so.40 are both dependencies, but that does not say anything on who is depending on them. They could be directly needed by libhhgttg.so.1 (I hope / do not think it is

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-14 Thread Christopher Samuel
On 15/11/18 12:10 pm, Christopher Samuel wrote: > I wonder if it's because they use libtool instead? Yup, it's libtool - using it compile my toy example shows the same behaviour with "readelf -d" pulling in the private libraries directly. :-( [csamuel@farnarkle2 libtool]$ cat hhgttg.c int answer

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-14 Thread Christopher Samuel
On 15/11/18 11:45 am, Christopher Samuel wrote: > Unfortunately that's not the case, just creating a shared library > that only links in libmpi.so will create dependencies on the private > libraries too in the final shared library. :-( Hmm, I might be misinterpreting the output of "ldd", it looks

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-14 Thread Christopher Samuel
On 15/11/18 2:16 am, Barrett, Brian via devel wrote: > In practice, this should not be a problem. The wrapper compilers (and > our instructions for linking when not using the wrapper compilers) > only link against libmpi.so (or a set of libraries if using Fortran), > as libmpi.so contains the pub

Re: [OMPI devel] Open-MPI backwards compatibility and library version changes

2018-11-14 Thread Barrett, Brian via devel
Chris - When we look at ABI stability for Open MPI releases, we look only at the MPI and SHMEM interfaces, not the internal interfaces used by Open MPI internally. libopen-pal.so is an internal library, and we do not guarantee ABI stability across minor releases. In 3.0.3, there was a backwar