Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Pavel Shamis (Pasha)
Jeff Squyres wrote: Based on discussions at SC, I think it is time to have another IB/ OpenFabrics OMPI pow wow teleconference. It would be good to get status updates on what everyone is doing in terms of OpenFabrics kinds of things in OMPI so that we can coordinate the work properly. I'd

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 19, 2007, at 6:56 AM, Pavel Shamis (Pasha) wrote: - Cisco - Voltaire - LLNL - OGC (Chelsio) - ?ORNL? - ?Sun? Please add Mellanox to the list too ... Oops! That was clearly a typo/oversight, sorry... -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
I'm not sure it is really necessary - the problem is solely within opal_cmd_line_parse and (if someone can parse that code ;-)) is truly simple to fix. The overly long cmd line issue is due to a bug that Josh was going to look at (may already have done so while I was out of touch). Ralph On 11/

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
Sorry -- I'm just joining this conversation late: what's the problem with opal_cmd_line_parse? It should obey all quoting from shells, etc. I.e., it shouldn't care about tokens with special characters (to include spaces) because the shell divides all of that stuff up -- it just gets a char

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
My, you are joining late! ;-) The problem is with MCA params that take string arguments. If we pass the following: -mca foo "my beloved string" on the command line of an orted, we get a value for foo that includes the quote marks. I verified this rather painfully when attempting to pass a comman

Re: [OMPI devel] ORTE process name,, nodeid..

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
Yo Galen I'm not aware of any continuing discussion to totally remove the process name from ORTE - I believe we coalesced to redefining how the jobid was established to a procedure that doesn't require a name server. This hasn't come over to the trunk yet, but will in the next couple of months. A

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
I guess I don't see why this is an opal_cmd_line_parse() problem. If you invoke executables through system(), then a shell is used and quoting is necessary to preserve the individual string tokens (i.e., "my beloved string" would be passed to the application as one argv token, without the q

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
Unfortunately, it -is- a significant problem when passing the params on to the orteds, as Tim has eloquently pointed out in his original posting. I guess I don't see why it would be a significant problem to just have opal_cmd_line_parse do the "right thing" - if a string param is quoted, then just

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Don Kerr
Sun would like to be represented at this meeting. Mon 10AM might be a problem for Sun, any of the other times are good. -DON Jeff Squyres wrote: Based on discussions at SC, I think it is time to have another IB/ OpenFabrics OMPI pow wow teleconference. It would be good to get status updat

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Ralph H Castain wrote: Unfortunately, it -is- a significant problem when passing the params on to the orteds, as Tim has eloquently pointed out in his original posting. I guess I don't see why it would be a significant problem to just have opal_cmd_line_parse do

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
Hmmm...okay, I get the message: if it is going to be fixed, then I have to fix it on my end. ;-) Which means it ain't happening anytime soon, so Tim P is the one left in the lurch. Sorry Tim! Perhaps you can come up with a compromise that re-enables what you want to do. Ralph On 11/19/07 8:11

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Ralph H Castain wrote: Hmmm...okay, I get the message: if it is going to be fixed, then I have to fix it on my end. ;-) Which means it ain't happening anytime soon, so Tim P is the one left in the lurch. Sorry Tim! Perhaps you can come up with a compromise that

Re: [OMPI devel] Multiworld MCA parameter values broken

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph H Castain
On 11/19/07 8:19 AM, "Jeff Squyres" wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Ralph H Castain wrote: > >> Hmmm...okay, I get the message: if it is going to be fixed, then I >> have to >> fix it on my end. ;-) Which means it ain't happening anytime soon, >> so Tim P >> is the one left in the lurc

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Shipman, Galen M.
I am off all next week, but I will try to call in anyway.. - Galen On 11/19/07 10:09 AM, "Don Kerr" wrote: > Sun would like to be represented at this meeting. Mon 10AM might be a > problem for Sun, any of the other times are good. > > -DON > > Jeff Squyres wrote: > >> Based on discussions

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:36:39AM -0800, Jeff Squyres wrote: > 1. Mon, 26 Nov, 10am US East, 7am US Pacific, 5pm Israel > 2. Mon, 26 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel > 3. Thu, 29 Nov, 10am US East, 7am US Pacific, 5pm Israel > 4. Thu, 29 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel >

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
Friday -- right, duh. My bad. So with everyone's replies so far, I think we're down to: 2. Mon, 26 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel 3. Thu, 29 Nov, 10am US East, 7am US Pacific, 5pm Israel 4. Thu, 29 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel If we get no more requirements, I

Re: [OMPI devel] IB/OpenFabrics pow wow

2007-11-19 Thread Steve Wise
Jeff Squyres wrote: Friday -- right, duh. My bad. So with everyone's replies so far, I think we're down to: 2. Mon, 26 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel 3. Thu, 29 Nov, 10am US East, 7am US Pacific, 5pm Israel 4. Thu, 29 Nov, 11am US East, 8am US Pacific, 6pm Israel 3 or 4 will

Re: [OMPI devel] initial SCTP BTL commit comments?

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
Are there API functions or data structures that can be used to determine if the 1-to-many model is supported on the system? More specifically: can you have your configure.m4 script check to see if the current system a) supports SCTP, and b) if yes, if it supports 1-to-many? This kind of ch

Re: [OMPI devel] ORTE process name,, nodeid..

2007-11-19 Thread Tim Prins
On Monday 19 November 2007 09:42:21 am Ralph H Castain wrote: > An alternative solution might be to incorporate the modex in the new OMPI > framework I was about to create anyway. This framework was intended to deal > with publish/lookup of OMPI data to support a variety of methods. > Originally,

Re: [OMPI devel] === CREATE FAILURE ===

2007-11-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
This patch will fix the problem -- the OMPI_VAR_SCOPE stuff didn't make it over to the v1.2 branch: Index: config/ompi_config_asm.m4 === --- config/ompi_config_asm.m4 (revision 16740) +++ config/ompi_config_asm.m4 (working copy

Re: [OMPI devel] ORTE process name,, nodeid..

2007-11-19 Thread Ralph Castain
On 11/19/07 6:20 PM, "Tim Prins" wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2007 09:42:21 am Ralph H Castain wrote: > >> An alternative solution might be to incorporate the modex in the new OMPI >> framework I was about to create anyway. This framework was intended to deal >> with publish/lookup of OMPI