Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> Assuming this is so, why do we generate a bazillion pointless module |> packages still if having the kernel package brings 'em all in anyway, |> and they will ALL be regenerated at each kernel package uple

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> but it's clear the module packages don't serve any purpose in GTA02 | | Like avoiding to have to download dozens of megabytes of never used | modules each time the kernel changes ? :) I

nfs on ASU

2008-08-04 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello all, It seems that nfs filesystem is not enabled on ASU image. If I type : less /proc/filesystems I don't see it. Is there a way to enable it ? Which file should I modify to build the image with nfs support ? cheers, -charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: Simple Makefile

2008-08-04 Thread sparky mat
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Roland Schatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Hello > > I set up the toolchain as per the instructions on the wiki and was > > able to build and package the sample project as per the tutorial. > > > > My problem is that I am not very comfortable with the 'autoconf' wa

Re: Build using wiki/Toolchain instructions failing...

2008-08-04 Thread Kent Yoder
Bingo... Thanks everyone! Kent On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Julian Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:14:31PM -0500, Kent Yoder wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm attempting to build a sample app following these [1] >> instructions -- all is well until the 'make' step: >> lib

Re: glibc build fails

2008-08-04 Thread Rod Whitby
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Dear Dev'ers, > > trying to build up-to-date image using MokoMakefile > > fails to build glibc with problem listed below. apparently is missing > -L/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/sdk/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-intermediate-4.1.2-r18/gcc-4.1.2/b

Re: Openmoko Bug #1745: please consider following Filesystem Hierarachy Standard with /var/tmp

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1745: please consider following Filesystem Hierarachy Standard with /var/tmp -+-- Reporter: lindi|Owner: openmoko-devel Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: low |

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Rod Whitby
Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | |> I would like to propose we radically simplify how we deal with > | |> modules, simply by pushing all the ones we create into the main > | |> kernel package. This has one disadvantage, size on storage, but > > | |> What do the

glibc build fails

2008-08-04 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Dev'ers, trying to build up-to-date image using MokoMakefile fails to build glibc with problem listed below. apparently is missing -L/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/sdk/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-intermediate-4.1.2-r18/gcc-4.1.2/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-g

Re: Openmoko Bug #1708: Power button stops working when wifi is turn off

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1708: Power button stops working when wifi is turn off +--- Reporter: slozano |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: normal

Re: Pulse Audio

2008-08-04 Thread Russell Sears
Hans L wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Russell Sears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anton Persson wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I see that the Pulse Audio server and libraries are in the latest 2007.2 >>> release, and I gather it's available >>> in the FSO/ASU-stuff too.. But; there are no develop

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > but it's clear the module packages don't serve any purpose in GTA02 Like avoiding to have to download dozens of megabytes of never used modules each time the kernel changes ? :) I can see the issue of kernel and modules getting out of sync. In fact, what's why I personally hat

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:42:35 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Am Montag 04 August 2008 17:54:03 schrieb Simon Kagstrom: > > Hello! > > > > I'm browsing the source code for illume and I have some alternative > > keyboard layouts that I'd like to test. In particular, some

Re: Pulse Audio

2008-08-04 Thread Hans L
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Russell Sears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anton Persson wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I see that the Pulse Audio server and libraries are in the latest 2007.2 >> release, and I gather it's available >> in the FSO/ASU-stuff too.. But; there are no development headers/libs in t

Re: python-pygst gone from the repo?

2008-08-04 Thread Holger Freyther
On Monday 21 July 2008 17:52:43 Marcel wrote: > Hello, > > I had python-pygst (IIRC) installed on FSO and worked with it more or less > successfully. Today morning I flashed ASU and opkg cant seem to find the > package anymore (of course I opkg-update'd). > Any chance of getting it back? :) Not ba

Re: SD card performace ?

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> Interesting. |> |> | is this really the max. cpu/system performace for a 400 MHz arm ? |> |> No, it's not CPU bound. For "half the time" the CPU is doing other |> processes waiting for

Re: SD card performace ?

2008-08-04 Thread Russell Sears
Andy Green wrote: > Interesting. > > | is this really the max. cpu/system performace for a 400 MHz arm ? > > No, it's not CPU bound. For "half the time" the CPU is doing other > processes waiting for the bulk completion interrupt from Glamo. Wait, writes go into a buffer after being ECC'ed and

Re: Pulse Audio

2008-08-04 Thread Russell Sears
Anton Persson wrote: > Hi, > > I see that the Pulse Audio server and libraries are in the latest 2007.2 > release, and I gather it's available > in the FSO/ASU-stuff too.. But; there are no development headers/libs in the > toolchain available > at http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/.. Is th

Re: SD card performace ?

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Somehow your mail was delayed many hours. | in my gta02v5 I get ~3.2 MB/sec sustained read performace with the | shipped 512 MB sandisk card using e.g. Not bad. | when I do the same with this card in my Le

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Montag 04 August 2008 17:54:03 schrieb Simon Kagstrom: > Hello! > > I'm browsing the source code for illume and I have some alternative > keyboard layouts that I'd like to test. In particular, some phones have > a 5x4 keyboard layout which basically maps to keys "in pairs" (i.e., > QW, ER, ...).

SD card performace ?

2008-08-04 Thread Harald Koenig
Hi, some questions about SD card performace, right now running # cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 30 11:56:48 CEST 2008 but with older (pre-GPS-fix) kernel I've seen similar read performace (haven't looked at write pe

Openmoko Bug #1745: please consider following Filesystem Hierarachy Standard with /var/tmp

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1745: please consider following Filesystem Hierarachy Standard with /var/tmp -+-- Reporter: lindi| Owner: openmoko-devel Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: low | Mil

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: in_testing Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Pulse Audio

2008-08-04 Thread Anton Persson
Hi, I see that the Pulse Audio server and libraries are in the latest 2007.2 release, and I gather it's available in the FSO/ASU-stuff too.. But; there are no development headers/libs in the toolchain available at http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/.. Is there a development package for this

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-04 Thread Menno Smits
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > See http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/ > > The first thing already in there is a fixed Xserver for the FR that does not > exhibit the "eating accelerometer events" behaviour. > > Enjoy. > Excellent news. Thanks! Menno _

Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-04 Thread Simon Kagstrom
Hello! I'm browsing the source code for illume and I have some alternative keyboard layouts that I'd like to test. In particular, some phones have a 5x4 keyboard layout which basically maps to keys "in pairs" (i.e., QW, ER, ...). I'd like to experiment with this layout for the freerunner. Creatin

Re: Openmoko Bug #1723: Hanging up with power button causes issues

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1723: Hanging up with power button causes issues ---+ Reporter: reaper527 |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: high |Milestone: OM-2007.2 Compone

Re: *****SPAM***** How to crosscompile python modules with dist-utils?

2008-08-04 Thread Steven **
Have you tried the following? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Installing_additional_libraries_into_the_toolchain -Steven On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Timo Drick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > i changed to the FSO image and there are no dev packeges to compile on > the phone. So i

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

FSO updates feed started

2008-08-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
See http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/ The first thing already in there is a fixed Xserver for the FR that does not exhibit the "eating accelerometer events" behaviour. Enjoy. -- :M: ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmo

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Re: FSO dbus Zhone -> bluetooth

2008-08-04 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:07:07 +0200 Timo Drick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mickey, > > i used the dbus system to turn on bluetooth: > (mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd > /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth > org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower 1) Yeah you nee

Re: Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone: Component: unknown

Openmoko Bug #1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors

2008-08-04 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1743: Intenso SDHC 4GB gives glamo errors -+-- Reporter: beni | Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: unknown |

Re: documentation?

2008-08-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hi - can you please tell me the link to your facebooks' note section? I don't see it in this message, and I would like to check up on how you're referring to this material, which isn't really ready yet for general public release .. j. On Jul 27, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Seecs Open Mobile Squad wr

Re: Weekly Engineering News 31/2008

2008-08-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Wolfgang Spraul schrieb: >> Hi, >> I will attempt to write a weekly email about what is going on in >> engineering at Openmoko, software and hardware. > > great idea. Thanks a lot for the extra time you spend on letting > all of us take part a bit more. Here here, I think these weekly updates w

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> It seems either I am missing your point (quite possible, no idea why |> RECOMMEND and not REQUIRES) or we should drop the bazillion module |> packages and put them in the one kernel package. |> | Because G

Re: Building from Mokomakefile

2008-08-04 Thread ritz
Hello On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 21:17 +0200, λ wrote: > hi from a newcomer > Bravo for your work ! many stuff sounds very amazing > > at this step two things are worrying me when i challenge to : > > 2) build the FSO but i don't achieve anything cause a missing > (mandatory?) package located at

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:10:51 +0100 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:43:56 +0100 > | Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:43:56 +0100 | Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> |> | |> I would like to pr

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:43:56 +0100 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | |> I would like to propose we radically simplify how we deal with > | |> modules, simply by pushing all the ones we crea

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | |> I would like to propose we radically simplify how we deal with | |> modules, simply by pushing all the ones we create into the main | |> kernel package. This has one disadvantage, size on storage, but |

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:26:52 +0100 | Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Hi - |> |> The combination of us moving some important functionality to

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:26:52 +0100 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi - > > The combination of us moving some important functionality to a module, > and the finegrained module packaging we currently use have made a > problem for users.

Kernel package and modules

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi - The combination of us moving some important functionality to a module, and the finegrained module packaging we currently use have made a problem for users. I would like to propose we radically simplify how we deal with modules, simply by pushing

Re: USB host mode with HSPA Stick.

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | today i tested the host mode of my freerunner gta02. | It works fine but most kernel modules missing to do usefull things. Yeah, sorry. I will ask separately for all modules to be packaged with ker

Re: Weekly Engineering News 31/2008

2008-08-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 3-Aug-08, at 12:36 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: | |> [...], as well as |> on improving GTA02 audio quality. Even though he did a lot of tests, |> right now he cannot reproduce any audio problems with our la

Re: Simple Makefile

2008-08-04 Thread Roland Schatz
Hello > I set up the toolchain as per the instructions on the wiki and was > able to build and package the sample project as per the tutorial. > > My problem is that I am not very comfortable with the 'autoconf' way > of doing things. I usually prefer a simple Makefile / Scons file. No problem, j

Re: Building from Mokomakefile

2008-08-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:27:37 -0300 Cesar Eduardo Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > λ escreveu: > > hi from a newcomer > > Bravo for your work ! many stuff sounds very amazing > > > > at this step two things are worrying me when i challenge to : > > > > 1) build the ASU 20080803 with the mokoma

Re: python-pygst gone from the repo?

2008-08-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:52:43 +0200 Marcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I had python-pygst (IIRC) installed on FSO and worked with it more or > less successfully. Today morning I flashed ASU and opkg cant seem to > find the package anymore (of course I opkg-update'd). > Any chance of ge