Re: Openmoko Bug #1685: [Suspend/Resume time] The device insist to go suspend even after touch the screen to wake it up from blank time

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1685: [Suspend/Resume time] The device insist to go suspend even after touch the screen to wake it up from blank time -+-- Reporter: wendy_hung |Owner: raster Type: enhancement | Status: assigned

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Aug 6, 2008, at 1:46 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Jay Vaughan wrote: >>> I'd consider USB host as a non-essential feature in this context: >>> it's unlikely to be your primary means for accessing the Neo. EoUSB >>> often is. >> >> >> USB host is essential to those of us using the Freerunner

Re: Problem using compiled kernel modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | version magic '2.6.24 preempt mod_unload ARMv5 ' should be '2.6.24 | preempt mod_unload ARMv4 You have to make sure you compile against the same source tree, with the same .config and use the right compile

Mike's actual problem

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi - The discussion about where to put a git hash for versioning is too esoteric to get passionate about in itself. I woke up this morning realizing what the actual issue is here. Mike has been putting out some kernel binaries on his page for a whil

Built FSO, what next?

2008-08-05 Thread Matt Margush
Hi everyone, I need a little pointer in the right direction. I'm trying to get a basic development environment set up so I can hopefully start contributing with some testing and eventually some patches. I was able to successfully compile FSO following the instructions on the Wiki: http://wiki.op

Re: Simple Makefile

2008-08-05 Thread sparky mat
I managed to compile and execute the tutorial GTK+ application (at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_a_hello_world_application#GDK_the_Wrong_.2F_Easy_Way) using the attached Makefile. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:08 PM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a follow-up query. Please tak

Problem using compiled kernel modules

2008-08-05 Thread Timo Drick
Hi, i have to compile some kernel modules on my own because they are not in distribution. Following modules i need: udf,compat_ioctl32,v4l1-compat,v4l2-common,v4l2-int-device,videodev And external kernel module uvcvideo (I compiled the modules using the kernel in git. I am not sure which versio

Re: Openmoko Bug #1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS +--- Reporter: ssinger |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: Openmoko Bug #1726: Entering SIM PIN often includes a space

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1726: Entering SIM PIN often includes a space --+- Reporter: odlg |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect| Status: closed Priority: high |Milestone: Component: Q

Re: Uboot

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: > Aaron Sowry ??: >> I've found the daily u-boot images at >> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080805/ >> >> Which one do I use? There are 3 versions for the gta02v5 - what is the >> difference? I

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Jay Vaughan wrote: >> I'd consider USB host as a non-essential feature in this context: >> it's unlikely to be your primary means for accessing the Neo. EoUSB >> often is. > > > USB host is essential to those of us using the Freerunner with other > devices, like USB-MIDI/Audio interfaces, griffin

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Mike (mwester) escreveu: > Here's a fragment, based on what we've seen earlier, that works > with the OM git repo: > > if [ -d .git ] ; then > HEAD=`git show --pretty=oneline | head -n1 | cut -d' ' -f1 | cut -b1-16` > BRANCH=`git branch | grep ^\* | cut -d' ' -f2` > export HOSTNAME_OVERRIDE=

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Mike (mwester) wrote: > But I'm lazy. And that means that if I *also* had to package up a > tarball of all the modules, copy them up to the rootfs, make sure I have > space, untar them, remember to delete them when done, just so I could > boot that kernel to do that test, well, it's less likely th

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread Clare
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:14 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:04:04 + Clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> keyboard, that's why dictionary

Please update the Assassin version on ASU.dev

2008-08-05 Thread Tick Chen
Hi Julian, Please update the assassin version to 225. Changes: Make search group/update in a queue. That avoid some racing condition on packagekitd. Cheers, Tick signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.ope

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:04:04 + Clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:45:26 +0200 Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > >> I built the milestone at a time where Ras

Openmoko Bug #1750: Range-based automatic network configuration

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1750: Range-based automatic network configuration -+-- Reporter: Mercury | Owner: openmoko-devel Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Com

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Mike (mwester)
Joachim Steiger wrote: >> *sigh* Well, I tried. Perhaps I'm not the convincing orator >> (emailator?) that is required to present the customer-support POV. >> Further, it's unclear to whom the argument needs to be presented. >> >> I'll figure out some means -- despite your unilateral decision --

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread Anton Persson
Yeah, I get the same error... I'm using the gta02 versions.. /Anton On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm getting the following: > > Downloading > http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02/Packages.sig > Signature check failed > C

Re: Openmoko Bug #1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS +--- Reporter: ssinger |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: Openmoko Bug #1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS

2008-08-05 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1746: qtmail closes connection when sending SMTP mail with TLS +--- Reporter: ssinger |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: Toolchain - GTK+ libraries?

2008-08-05 Thread Deniz Koçak
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, sparky mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have installed the GTA02 toolchain as mentioned in the wiki (from > http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/) > However, I find only some libraries in > /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib . What do you m

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Holger Freyther
On Tuesday 05 August 2008 07:44:48 Guillaume Chereau wrote: > Hello all, > It seems that nfs filesystem is not enabled on ASU image. If I type : > less /proc/filesystems > I don't see it. > > Is there a way to enable it ? Which file should I modify to build the > image with nfs support ? hey charl

Re: build fails with neo1973_pm_gps_is_on is implicitly defined

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello | | building kernel fails with the message below | | | arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c:88:44: | error: ../plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.h: No such file or directory | | make[1]: Entering directory | `

build fails with neo1973_pm_gps_is_on is implicitly defined

2008-08-05 Thread ritz
Hello building kernel fails with the message below | arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c:88:44: error: ../plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.h: No such file or directory | make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/NotBackedUp/Projects/openmoko/build/build/tmp/work/om-gta02-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-openmoko-2

Toolchain - GTK+ libraries?

2008-08-05 Thread sparky mat
I have installed the GTA02 toolchain as mentioned in the wiki (from http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/) However, I find only some libraries in /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib . What about the GTK+ libraries (and its dependencies)? How do I start GTK+ (or Qt for that ma

Jalimo apps

2008-08-05 Thread sparky mat
I was wondering how many apps were available based on the Jalimo JVM. The JVM seems to be pretty fast, along with SWT (with GTK backend). I would have thought this would prompt many applications popping up. ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Simple Makefile

2008-08-05 Thread sparky mat
I had a follow-up query. Please take a look at my (simple) Makefile attached. I am trying to figure out how to organize my files into the following structure: inc/ src/ build/ build/armv4t/ (which will contain an 'obj' folder and the final binary) build/x86/ ( - do - ) How do I alter the '%.o: %.

Re: downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-05 Thread Joachim Steiger
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: [...] > Tick will make some changes to the community repository, not sure > exactly how that will look like in the end. just changed the scripts which generate it. we used the opportunity to rename it to a more fitting name: Multiverse http://downloads.openmoko.org/repos

Re: Packages disappearing from the repository

2008-08-05 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Steven ** wrote: > It seems like several things have been removed from the repositories. > Who does this and why? > > From what I've seen, the following packages were once in the > repository and are no more: > bluez-utils-alsa > nano > agpsui > tangogps > > I'm betting there are others that have

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Joachim Steiger
> *sigh* Well, I tried. Perhaps I'm not the convincing orator > (emailator?) that is required to present the customer-support POV. > Further, it's unclear to whom the argument needs to be presented. > > I'll figure out some means -- despite your unilateral decision -- to > ensure that the averag

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Mike (mwester)
For the record, here's the patch to permit the build script to override the "hostname" in the ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) portion of the kernel's identification area. Build scripts can use this to provide build-system-specific ID information, which should usually identify the origin of the kernel (i.e. wh

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | *sigh* Well, I tried. Perhaps I'm not the convincing orator | (emailator?) that is required to present the customer-support POV. | Further, it's unclear to whom the argument needs to be presented. The ar

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Mike (mwester)
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > Just to fill folks in, I patched my build script to add the branch name > and git head hash to the "version" the kernel reports. > > # uname -a > Linux fic-gta02 2.6.26-andy-2.6

Re: Packages disappearing from the repository

2008-08-05 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:24:15 -0500 "Steven **" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like several things have been removed from the repositories. > Who does this and why? > > From what I've seen, the following packages were once in the > repository and are no more: > bluez-utils-alsa > nano > agps

Packages disappearing from the repository

2008-08-05 Thread Steven **
It seems like several things have been removed from the repositories. Who does this and why? >From what I've seen, the following packages were once in the repository and are no more: bluez-utils-alsa nano agpsui tangogps I'm betting there are others that have been lost. Were they moved to some o

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | EXTRAVERSION implies it is a version, and versions are sortable. Git | revisions aren't sortabled and hence unsuited to be using in versions. This doesn't seem a very strong argument, all kinds of literals

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Alex Kavanagh
Fredrik Wendt wrote, On 05/08/08 14:43: > Andy wrote: > >> What workflow are you trying to achieve with NFS? Unless you're >> changing large files a lot, scp to NAND or SD Card works well. >> > > I intend to mount my music share (NFS) when I'm at work (over wlan since > GPRS will be to s

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Just to fill folks in, I patched my build script to add the branch name and git head hash to the "version" the kernel reports. # uname -a Linux fic-gta02 2.6.26-andy-2.6.26:bf9b3bb99b5b8708-mokodev #1001 PRE

Re: Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 5 aug 2008, om 15:57 heeft Mike (mwester) het volgende geschreven: Andy Green wrote: You might noticed I called it "module versioning" :-) But we have another way to come at by EXTRAVERSION with the git hash, that solves another issue too. Let's re-open the discussion on this, I think t

Kernel versioning [was Re: Kernel package and modules]

2008-08-05 Thread Mike (mwester)
Andy Green wrote: > > You might noticed I called it "module versioning" :-) But we have > another way to come at by EXTRAVERSION with the git hash, that solves > another issue too. Let's re-open the discussion on this, I think there's a better solution. I remain opposed to the use of the git ha

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Andy wrote: > What workflow are you trying to achieve with NFS? Unless you're > changing large files a lot, scp to NAND or SD Card works well. I intend to mount my music share (NFS) when I'm at work (over wlan since GPRS will be to slow) and have my FR play my music over bt. When that works, I'll

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread Dylan Semler
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Argh, git's lack of incremental versions showing its ugly head -- we > switched this package in OE to another git tree, that's why our usual > gitr prefix is not active in this case. > Please opkg install --force-downgra

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread Clare
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:45:26 +0200 Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >> I built the milestone at a time where Raster was revamping the >> keyboard, that's why dictionary prediction is not available

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread digger vermont
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:19 +0200, Michael Lauer wrote: > Am 05.08.2008 um 14:13 schrieb Menno Smits: > > > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > >> See http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/ > >> > >> The first thing already in there is a fixed Xserver for the FR that > >> does n

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread Kevin Dean
I'm getting the following: Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/fic-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Lauer
Am 05.08.2008 um 14:13 schrieb Menno Smits: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> See http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/ >> >> The first thing already in there is a fixed Xserver for the FR that >> does not >> exhibit the "eating accelerometer events" behaviour. > > I've in

Re: FSO updates feed started

2008-08-05 Thread Menno Smits
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > See http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/updates/ > > The first thing already in there is a fixed Xserver for the FR that does not > exhibit the "eating accelerometer events" behaviour. I've installed the updated opkg config as described and run "opk

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Lauer
Am 05.08.2008 um 12:48 schrieb Andy Green: > Anyway if it cheers you up, currently bringing up WLAN by default in > monolithic kernel costs 300ms. If someone can figure out a way to > provoke a rescan nicely, we can defer that until someone turns WLAN > on, > saving power and 300ms at boot, eno

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread thomasg
You might use sshfs, should be available, too and no need to mess around with nfs :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Guillaume Chereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > | Am 05.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Andy Green: > > |> What workflow are you trying to achieve with NFS? Unless you're > > |> changi

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | eheh, the problem is not really the time it takes to copy the file, but | the time it takes ME to run the scp command ! | Yes, I am that lazy :) lol then I certainly appreciate the effort of your reply her

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Guillaume Chereau
> | Am 05.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Andy Green: > |> What workflow are you trying to achieve with NFS? Unless you're > |> changing large files a lot, scp to NAND or SD Card works well. Well, what I do is editing -python- scripts on my host, and executing them on my neo. Mickey said : > | Nothing

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:45:26 +0200 Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Am 05.08.2008 um 09:33 schrieb Simon Kagstrom: > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:27:19 +1000 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> as such - with fuzzy matching (dictionary lookup), if you hav

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tuesday 05 of August 2008 10:53:55 Andy Green wrote: | |> JFFS2 mount is three or four or more times the delay of the whole |> kernel bringup, and the rootfs init still towers above it all. | | What about

Re: bump srcrev for linux-openmoko for FSO

2008-08-05 Thread nick loeve
Hi On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The srcrev for linux-openmoko needs to be updated to include the patch >> for the missing header file (I think the patch went in last Friday). >> As this is the OE tree (for FSO) and not the openmoko tree, where is >>

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
> I'd consider USB host as a non-essential feature in this context: > it's unlikely to be your primary means for accessing the Neo. EoUSB > often is. USB host is essential to those of us using the Freerunner with other devices, like USB-MIDI/Audio interfaces, griffin Powermate thumb wheels, e

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
> So it seems that, if we > - enable module versioning (heh, never notices that one ;-), and > - put EoUSB back in the monolithic kernel for now > we should be good for a while, no ? > If EoUSB *must* be a module, because if it is built-in, it means we cannot use the other gadget_ drivers, and t

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On Tuesday 05 of August 2008 10:53:55 Andy Green wrote: > JFFS2 mount is three or four or more times the delay of the whole > kernel bringup, and the rootfs init still towers above it all. What about people who boots from SD cards? > You're talking about a few ms vs hundreds of seconds. -- JID

downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-05 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
We had a meeting in Taipei to try to cleanup the downloads.openmoko.org folder structure ahead of the Om 2008.8 release (formerly known as ASU). First we created a new subfolder obsolete/, and moved the following folders into it: asu/ doc/ recommended/ snapshots/ ui_icons/ updates/ The one

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | Am 05.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Andy Green: | |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | Hello all, |> | It seems that nfs filesystem is not en

Re: bump srcrev for linux-openmoko for FSO

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Lauer
> The srcrev for linux-openmoko needs to be updated to include the patch > for the missing header file (I think the patch went in last Friday). > As this is the OE tree (for FSO) and not the openmoko tree, where is > the best place to file 'bugs' like this one? As FSO is using upstream org.openemb

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Lauer
Am 05.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Andy Green: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Hello all, > | It seems that nfs filesystem is not enabled on ASU image. If I > type : > | less /proc/filesystems > | I don't see it. > | > | Is there

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> If you need to use it, you'll need to use a custom kernel config with |> various options down File Systems | Network File Systems in menuconfig. | I find sshfs (ssh fuse filesystem) works really well when

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Lauer
Am 05.08.2008 um 09:33 schrieb Simon Kagstrom: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:27:19 +1000 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as such - with fuzzy matching (dictionary lookup), if you have this: >> [A B] [C D] [E F] >> [G H] [I J] [K L] >> >> on a touchscreen - it is in fact

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Alex Kavanagh
Andy Green wrote, On 05/08/08 10:15: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Hello all, > | It seems that nfs filesystem is not enabled on ASU image. If I type : > | less /proc/filesystems > | I don't see it. > | > | Is there a way to enable it ? Which file should I modify to build the >

bump srcrev for linux-openmoko for FSO

2008-08-05 Thread nick loeve
Hi, The srcrev for linux-openmoko needs to be updated to include the patch for the missing header file (I think the patch went in last Friday). As this is the OE tree (for FSO) and not the openmoko tree, where is the best place to file 'bugs' like this one? Cheers -- Nick Loeve ___

Re: Weekly Engineering News 31/2008

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | When you say "with our latest generation A6 devices", does this mean | | that those new devices have hardware changes designed to improve audio | | quality relative to the Neo1973 and first batch of Freer

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello all, | It seems that nfs filesystem is not enabled on ASU image. If I type : | less /proc/filesystems | I don't see it. | | Is there a way to enable it ? Which file should I modify to build the | image

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > When any modules exist and are used in rootfs, DFU in kernel partition > is illegal anyway, at best reserved for special situation. Yeah, there's certainly a huge mismatch potential there. What I'm worried about is to make the kernel developer setup too different from the user

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tuesday 05 of August 2008 10:26:38 Werner Almesberger wrote: |> Andy Green wrote: |>> Moving Ethernet over USB into a module exposed existing problems |>> that need solving anyway. We did not take care a

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> Moving Ethernet over USB into a module exposed existing problems that |> need solving anyway. We did not take care about module versioning, and |> we should deprecate monolithic kernel

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Having USB Host functionality in kernel will enlarge time spent on > booting. When you load USB Host later during start it can be done in any > time. And gta01/02 require it for Bluetooth... I'd consider USB host as a non-essential feature in this context: it's unlike

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On Tuesday 05 of August 2008 10:26:38 Werner Almesberger wrote: > Andy Green wrote: > > Moving Ethernet over USB into a module exposed existing problems > > that need solving anyway. We did not take care about module > > versioning, and we should deprecate monolithic kernel -only updates > > (ie,

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > Moving Ethernet over USB into a module exposed existing problems that > need solving anyway. We did not take care about module versioning, and > we should deprecate monolithic kernel -only updates (ie, DFU) for normal > use if we use modules at all. Well, as long as we can mak

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > That wasn't his point... he was saying do we need them all installed > because they take a lot of space. But, they take the same storage space > monolithic as they do as modules. So it's a different (but apposite) issue. Nitpicking: modules are larger than in-kernel code alre

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy, by the way, how urgent is that functionality actually ? It | doesn't look like anything ASU or FSO would need. If it's only a | fringe interest, it may be better to just stick with having only | EoUSB

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:58:34 -0300 Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy, by the way, how urgent is that functionality actually ? It > doesn't look like anything ASU or FSO would need. If it's only a > fringe interest, it may be better to just stick with having only > EoUSB in the reg

mono makefile issue

2008-08-05 Thread Kunal Deo
--- Begin Message --- hi I am having problems in running make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image I am getting following error NOTE: Checking Package: python-db NOTE: Checking Package: python-crypt NOTE: Checking Package: python-idle NOTE: Checking Package: python-lang NOTE: Checking Package: python-audio

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Graeme Gregory wrote: > I changed GTA02 yesterday to install all modules built. > > This uses 5.6M of storage (uncompressed no idea how to get the > compressed size out of jffs2) Ah, I only looked at the modules we build, and they took 10x as much space. 5.6MB isn't too bad a starting point. Stil

Re: glibc build fails

2008-08-05 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:12:53 +0930 Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > Dear Dev'ers, > > > > trying to build up-to-date image using MokoMakefile > > > > fails to build glibc with problem listed below. apparently is > > missing > > -L/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/s

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I changed GTA02 yesterday to install all modules built. | | This uses 5.6M of storage (uncompressed no idea how to get the | compressed size out of jffs2) 2.3% of 256MB sounds fine, not even allowing for c

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:23:28 -0300 Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Green wrote: > > It's viable, AIUI it is what we have done :-) > > That's cheating - we know that all your data lives on SD anyway ;-) > > > In this thread Graeme explained: > > Hmm, I'm not sure what is OE a

Re: Illume multitap keyboard

2008-08-05 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:27:19 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as such - with fuzzy matching (dictionary lookup), if you have this: > [A B] [C D] [E F] > [G H] [I J] [K L] > > on a touchscreen - it is in fact inferior to: > [A] [B] [C] [D] [E] [F] > [G] [H] [I] [J

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> It's viable, AIUI it is what we have done :-) | | That's cheating - we know that all your data lives on SD anyway ;-) | |> In this thread Graeme explained: | | Hmm, I'm not sure what is

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > It's viable, AIUI it is what we have done :-) That's cheating - we know that all your data lives on SD anyway ;-) > In this thread Graeme explained: Hmm, I'm not sure what is OE and what is opkg here. OE determines what gets built while opkg determines what gets installed. I

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The total space eaten by all the modules is enormous. Even on GTA02, | some 20% of total NAND storage would be taken up by them. So I think | just installing all the modules isn't a viable option in that se

Re: Kernel package and modules

2008-08-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > If they're really "never used", let's stop making 'em. Otherwise, > someone is using them, and when they found they wanted them can be > unpredictable. Yes, that's what I meant: never used on a given system, but obviously deemed potentially useful for someone. So the package p