Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | This is similar to the "poverty tax" - if you're not able to | make the upfront investment to do it right, you'll continuously | hemmorrhage money for inadequate solutions, ending up spending | a lot more i

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Ok, I guess I'll not debate this any further; we'll agree to disagree on | the chip. | | The real question behind the PMU debate is this -- is the current state | of power management and suspend in the kerne

Re: Openmoko Bug #1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed -+-- Reporter: montgoss |Owner: zecke Type: defect| Status: new Priority: high |Milestone: Om2008.9 Component: Qtopia

Re: Openmoko Bug #1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed -+-- Reporter: montgoss |Owner: zecke Type: defect| Status: new Priority: high |Milestone: Om2008.9 Component: Qtopia

Re: How to restore environment after cross-compiling.

2008-09-10 Thread Scott Carlson
Yeah, after I posted this, I noticed that I had it in my .bashrc :) On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The setup-env does not make any permanent changes to you machine. It's > effect is limited to the shell in which it is run and any ancestors of that > shel

Re: How to restore environment after cross-compiling.

2008-09-10 Thread Rod Whitby
The setup-env does not make any permanent changes to you machine. It's effect is limited to the shell in which it is run and any ancestors of that shell. -- Rod -Original Message- From: SCarlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 8:55 am Subject: How to restore environment

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
Mike (mwester) wrote: > The real question behind the PMU debate is this -- is the current state > of power management and suspend in the kernel for the GTA02 the best > that we can hope to get? I think we can definitely improve on the suspend/resume races, and there's even a plan ... let me find o

How to restore environment after cross-compiling.

2008-09-10 Thread SCarlson
Hey guys -- Still a bit new to all of this. I am running Ubuntu, and have been cross-compiling successfully for the freerunner, no problem. It seems that running source on arm/setup-env has permanently changed my environment. I'd like to do some native x86 compiling this evening, (and in fac

Re: Openmoko Bug #1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1639: Only some contacts off SIM displayed -+-- Reporter: montgoss |Owner: zecke Type: defect| Status: new Priority: high |Milestone: Om2008.9 Component: Qtopia

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > Don't see why it's problematic other than annoying to blow money on the > MOSFETs needed to correct not having control of PMU bringup. We just > need the MOSFETs to stagger inrush current. I was just referring to potentially needing several FETs, which isn't nice for space rea

Openmoko newbie dev questions

2008-09-10 Thread Dan
Hi - I have just set up linux (xubuntu 8.04) on an old laptop. I'm an openmoko newbie, hopefully you can help me with a couple of questions: * I have followed Andreas Dalsgaard's tutorial [1] and the steps 1-to-5 seem to have worked fine, no complaints. However I don't have an openmoko unit, I wa

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Mike (mwester)
Ok, I guess I'll not debate this any further; we'll agree to disagree on the chip. The real question behind the PMU debate is this -- is the current state of power management and suspend in the kernel for the GTA02 the best that we can hope to get? If not, are there any planned efforts to resolve

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Mike (mwester) wrote: |> I'll second that sentiment. Frankly, my impression of the 50633 and |> Linux is that while the chip might be excellent hardware-wise, it has a |> serious "impedance mismatch" when i

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
Mike (mwester) wrote: > I'll second that sentiment. Frankly, my impression of the 50633 and > Linux is that while the chip might be excellent hardware-wise, it has a > serious "impedance mismatch" when it comes to interfacing with the Linux > kernel. Hmm, not really. Once we can actually do somet

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Mike (mwester)
Sören Apel wrote: > Hello Wolfgang, > > Thanks for keeping us informed - it's greatly appreciated. > >> Staying with Samsung allows us to reuse more of our current Linux >> driver work, for example the PMU (NXP 50633) can stay the same. > > Having read > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/har

Request: Please use defconfig-gta02 for FSO kernel

2008-09-10 Thread shawnzier
After some discussion with Andy on the community lists, I wanted to put in a request that FSO use defconfig-gta02 for their kernel config. I'm not sure what their config is now, but it doesn't have anything compiled as modules. Personally, I'd like to try the usb file storage gadget. In order to

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> Staying with Samsung allows us to reuse more of our current Linux |> driver work, for example the PMU (NXP 50633) can stay the same. | | Having read | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-Augu

Re: Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Sören Apel
Hello Wolfgang, Thanks for keeping us informed - it's greatly appreciated. > Staying with Samsung allows us to reuse more of our current Linux > driver work, for example the PMU (NXP 50633) can stay the same. Having read http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000378.html and

Re: Openmoko Bug #1665: use dnsmasque for local dns caching

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1665: use dnsmasque for local dns caching +--- Reporter: candrews |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: Openmoko Bug #1654: [illume] Manually showing and hiding the keyboard.

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1654: [illume] Manually showing and hiding the keyboard. ---+ Reporter: kenrestivo |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: highest |Milestone:

Re: Openmoko Bug #1654: [illume] Manually showing and hiding the keyboard.

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1654: [illume] Manually showing and hiding the keyboard. ---+ Reporter: kenrestivo |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: reopened Priority: highest |Milestone:

Weekly Engineering News 36/2008

2008-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Hi everybody, last week had two important new developments in Taipei: 1. Samsung 6410 2. Marvell 8688 We decided to start working on a new hardware design using the Samsung 6410 SoC. Samsung's documentation is unfortunately closed, which puts them at a disadvantage compared to TI or Freescale

Re: Openmoko Bug #1842: Verbosity & informational improvements to dfu-util

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1842: Verbosity & informational improvements to dfu-util +--- Reporter: wiml |Owner: openmoko-devel Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal |

Re: org.openmoko.asu.dev to be closed

2008-09-10 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:11:27 +0200 Holger Freyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also -testing/-unstable is building less software for the feeds than > asu.stable is doing that. I have webkit/midori, some Java stuff and a > bunch of other things in mind. > I cant get any of the java stuff to build

Re: Openmoko Bug #1983: eth0 doesn't exist / Oops during bootup

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1983: eth0 doesn't exist / Oops during bootup +--- Reporter: Weiss|Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: org.openmoko.asu.dev to be closed

2008-09-10 Thread Holger Freyther
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 11:41:25 Holger Freyther wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2008 11:19:57 John Lee wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:35:36AM +0200, Holger Freyther wrote: > > > > I just did the 2008.8-update to testing (om.dev) repo upgrade and > > everything seems to be fine. The o

Openmoko Bug #1985: no auto-suspend after some time

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1985: no auto-suspend after some time --+- Reporter: h.koenig | Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect| Status: new Priority: normal| Milestone: Component: unk

Openmoko Bug #1986: AUX LED blicks too early at power on

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1986: AUX LED blicks too early at power on --+- Reporter: h.koenig | Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect| Status: new Priority: normal| Milestone: Component:

Re: Openmoko Bug #1983: eth0 doesn't exist / Oops during bootup

2008-09-10 Thread Openmoko Public Trac
#1983: eth0 doesn't exist / Oops during bootup +--- Reporter: Weiss|Owner: openmoko-devel Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal |Milestone:

Re: Freerunner toolkit/sdk

2008-09-10 Thread Muthu Subramanian
Hi all, How do I get the complete neo sources (the application part) - so that I can build the neod, libpulse, ? I am still stuck with this message: when running om-conf neod checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for NEOD... configure: error: Package requirements (