FSO unstable image now 49M - no X

2009-01-14 Thread c_c
Hi, Since 13 Jan, the FSO-unstable image has reduced to 49M in size (rootfs.tar.gz) and has no x server / enlightenment. The 12 Jan image was 63M. Is this planned behaviour - or is the auto build breaking somewhere? CAn anyone throw some light on this? -- View this message in context: http:/

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:59:52 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: >> I was referring to the fact that I could use their code to do something >> similar. But what I have in mind is to provide a dbus service, providing >> GSM based location. Now I think I understand what you meant above in >> your mail, ab

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:07:08 + (UTC), JW wrote: >> "Ketaki Deo" gmail.com> writes: >> > In my application, I am interested in accessing the voice stream and > sending >> > data over on it. > > > a long time ago on one of the lists someone (raster?) wrote that sending > data > over voice cha

Re: some UI and text input thoughts

2009-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:19:52 +0100 Marcos Mezo babbled: > On Thursday 15 January 2009 00:42:49 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:01:20 + Andy Green babbled: > > > > nothing to do with hardware here - all to do with software stack. the fact > > is there is no generic "zoom" c

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread JW
> "Ketaki Deo" gmail.com> writes: > > In my application, I am interested in accessing the voice stream and sending > > data over on it. a long time ago on one of the lists someone (raster?) wrote that sending data over voice channel is not a good option because a) signal rate is suprisingly low

Re: some UI and text input thoughts

2009-01-14 Thread Marcos Mezo
On Thursday 15 January 2009 00:42:49 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:01:20 + Andy Green babbled: > > nothing to do with hardware here - all to do with software stack. the fact > is there is no generic "zoom" control for apps - and apps have no concept > of one. you also need t

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 00:18, Onen wrote: > > Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > > > Great. What interface do you use for this? Already the new monitor > > interface? > > > Well, no. Would you mind pointing me more precisely what you are talking > about? I use code similar to the examples you f

Re: some UI and text input thoughts

2009-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:01:20 + Andy Green babbled: nothing to do with hardware here - all to do with software stack. the fact is there is no generic "zoom" control for apps - and apps have no concept of one. you also need to think about where in the stack you sit - if you go to /dev/input...

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-14 Thread Onen
Hello, Stefan Schmidt wrote: >>> How does it get the gsm and gps data? I hope from the FSO framework! >>> >>> >> What else? ;-) >> > > Great. What interface do you use for this? Already the new monitor interface? > Well, no. Would you mind pointing me more precisely what you are

Re: connman vs. interface detection

2009-01-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 23:06, Werner Almesberger wrote: > > Specifically, I tested: > - starting it when the interface is up: detects and registers it > - idem, but unbinding and re-binding the driver: detect.c detects > and registers the interface > - starting with the interface unbound

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 23:52, Onen wrote: > > Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 16:03, Mat Real wrote: > > > >> For each cell zone, I generate a kml file. This is nice to see how cells > >> enveloppe and > >> how coordinates have been generated. > >> > > The maps looks

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Nijs
It is indeed the toolchain wiki I was following. The only thing I didn't do already was replacing AC_PROG_CC for AC_PROG_CXX. After replacing that I did make clean, om-conf and make. It still complains it still says "*** No rule to make target `main.c', needed by `main.o'". I've put my complete

Error in om-make-ipkg

2009-01-14 Thread Ketaki Deo
Hi, I am trying to package my application using the om-make-ipkg script, but I am getting the following error, libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXrandr.la' Can anyone help me with that? -- Thanks and Regards, Ketaki Deo ___ devel mai

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-14 Thread Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez
One question, which wiki is the one you used as reference? is it the toolchain wiki page? The issue is the way you have autotools configured for the project. Let's suppose I followed the wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#How_to_create_your_own_project_from_the_sample_project The

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Nijs
In which file of the toolchain can I configure "make" to use arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi-g++ instead of arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc? I can't find it in any file that is not made by om-conf. I wonder if it's an argument of om- conf. #om-conf --help and #man om-conf don't do anything useful. Pet

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Ketaki Deo wrote: > Well, I am trying to send some signals itself over it. > Do you know which language would allow me to do so? > I found these Phone APIs, but from what I read they can only be used in > Python. Is that true? The FSO phone APIs use dbus which can be

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Ketaki Deo" writes: > Well, I am trying to send some signals itself over it. > Do you know which language would allow me to do so? > I found these Phone APIs, but from what I read they can only be used in > Python. Is that true? Audio routing is controlled with ALSA. __

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-14 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
It's because you are using the C compiler instead of C++ compiler, that compiler name should be : arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ Nicolas Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 18:11 +0100, Peter Nijs a écrit : > Hi, > > How can I lake the toolchain compile my code as C++ instead of C? Just > compiling it

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread Ketaki Deo
Well, I am trying to send some signals itself over it. Do you know which language would allow me to do so? I found these Phone APIs, but from what I read they can only be used in Python. Is that true? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > "Ketaki Deo" writes: > > In my a

Re: Stream capture-OpenMoko

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" writes: > file, 2.) there is a kernel OOPs when recording data atm. You can workaround the OOPS by opening the alsa device first and only then setting DAI mode to 1. ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists

Re: Accessing voice stream in openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Ketaki Deo" writes: > In my application, I am interested in accessing the voice stream and sending > data over on it. Audio compression will make it quite difficult to send any data over it. ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://list

Re: FSO and Paroli

2009-01-14 Thread c_c
Ok. That clears up a few issues for me :-) Thanks. Here are more thoughts. How are you planning on showing tasks/events/appointments on the home screen? Is there some documentation / discussion I can read about the PIM services planned? I am also looking at coding a paroli-settings plug-in (if

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Nijs
I'm referring to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain . Ok, I've tried: # cd /usr/local/openmoko/source/labyrinth/ # make clean # cd ../ # om-conf labyrinth # cd labyrinth # make but it still outputs the same. I'm using the makefile.in's etc provided with the toolchain. I've changed them to

Re: some UI and text input thoughts

2009-01-14 Thread Yorick Moko
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Christopher Friedt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I wanted to write to the list about two things - 1) zooming in the > browser, photo viewer, etc, and 2) 'swiping' instead of typing > > 1) > > Assuming (well, hoping really) that could also apply to the > touch-screen on

Re: FSO and Paroli

2009-01-14 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi again, first of all, thanks for the input and thoughts, they are, as Charlie pointed out, very helpful. c_c wrote: > Questions > Can't we have a daily build? The way builds are provided by OM will change drastically soon (see mail titled meeting in Braunschweig) the plan is to have daily bu

Re: some UI and text input thoughts

2009-01-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Are there any hardware engineers who can verify whether or not the | touch-screen on the Neo or FR could register or generate motion-based | events? If not, is this something that could be done easily in |