Re: FSO unstable image now 49M - no X

2009-01-15 Thread c_c
Hi, In fact I am unable to reboot if I take the 12 Jan image as base and update. The phone hangs at a black screen with a Please Wait Booting message. I remember seeing initscripts getting updated and there being a conflict between initscripts and openmoko-initscript. Can someone throw some

Re: installing subversion client

2009-01-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
>I'm trying to install subversion client in order to download some > projects and try them on openmoko. It seems that there isnt a package > precompiled witth subversion, and so I tried to compile from the I strongly recommend you try the Debian distribution. If the general interface doesn't s

Re: FSO unstable image now 49M - no X

2009-01-15 Thread qhaz
c_c wrote: > > Hi, > Since 13 Jan, the FSO-unstable image has reduced to 49M in size > (rootfs.tar.gz) and has no x server / enlightenment. The 12 Jan image was > 63M. Is this planned behaviour - or is the auto build breaking somewhere? > CAn anyone throw some light on this? > > For me, I

Re: FSO and Paroli

2009-01-15 Thread c_c
Hi, Mirko Lindner-2 wrote: > > c_c wrote: >> How are you planning on showing tasks/events/appointments on the home >> screen? > So far no display of those infos is part of the design as there is no > application for this, yet. Any volunteers ? :) > Isn't opimd looking at something like that? O

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:36:39 +0100, Onen wrote: > Hi, > > these are interesting ideas. At the moment I imagine building something > really simple. Give cell id to location system, gets position. > > I then would like to test the use of neighbour cells to increase > accuracy, by identifying the s

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Sascha Wessel
Hi, On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:31:00PM +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > So far we have no real structurized ideas how we would like to handle all this > nice location opportunities aside GPS. Stuff like > > - timezone from GPS coordinates > - City from GSM cell > - ... > > are just small things we

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread c_c
Hi, Guillaume Chereau wrote: > > I will be happy to start working on it if you want some specific > services to be done. > Well, if we do go down the services way, I think I would rather start with the power part of the settings app - so that would be the first service needed. Guillaume Cherea

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 16 January 2009 00:45:59 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > Am Thursday 15 January 2009 22:52:40 schrieb Onen: > > To be sure of the tuple I log, I > > prefer to get everything in a single shot. Moreover, I prefer to receive > > signals instead of calling monitor methods every time I want

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Thursday 15 January 2009 22:52:40 schrieb Onen: > To be sure of the tuple I log, I > prefer to get everything in a single shot. Moreover, I prefer to receive > signals instead of calling monitor methods every time I want to log > something, I guess this saves CPU, thus power. There are no unsol

Re: Changing default keyboard

2009-01-15 Thread Marc Rios
Hi breno, Here you will find the keyboard options http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate -- Marc Rios Nota: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Breno Jacinto wrote: > Hello, > >I have moved from the default version of OpenMoko

Changing default keyboard

2009-01-15 Thread Breno Jacinto
Hello, I have moved from the default version of OpenMoko (which I suppose it is 2007.something) to 2008.8. Well, honestly the new interface seems slower and less intuitive... I liked the prior version :). But, what is really making it rather non-intuitive is the new typing keyboard, which pers

Re: installing subversion client

2009-01-15 Thread Breno Jacinto
By the way, if that is important, it also shows gta-02 on the shell. 2009/1/15 Breno Jacinto : > Hello, > > I have installed OM 2008.8 version. > > thanks for the prompt replies. > > regards, > > 2009/1/15 Joop Boonen : >> Which distro are you using? >> >> >> On Thu, January 15, 2009 10:32 pm, B

Re: installing subversion client

2009-01-15 Thread Breno Jacinto
Hello, I have installed OM 2008.8 version. thanks for the prompt replies. regards, 2009/1/15 Joop Boonen : > Which distro are you using? > > > On Thu, January 15, 2009 10:32 pm, Breno Jacinto wrote: >> Hello, >> >>I'm trying to install subversion client in order to download some >> proje

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Onen
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > It's a GSM monitor for cell informations. Also neighbour cells. And yes, you > got > us. Not documented API until now. Mickey fixed it: > > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.html;hb=HEAD > > > Ok then I onl

Re: installing subversion client

2009-01-15 Thread Joop Boonen
Which distro are you using? On Thu, January 15, 2009 10:32 pm, Breno Jacinto wrote: > Hello, > >I'm trying to install subversion client in order to download some > projects and try them on openmoko. It seems that there isnt a package > precompiled witth subversion, and so I tried to compile f

Re: Future of location services on OM

2009-01-15 Thread Onen
Hi, these are interesting ideas. At the moment I imagine building something really simple. Give cell id to location system, gets position. I then would like to test the use of neighbour cells to increase accuracy, by identifying the smallest common area. Give cell idS to location system, gets

installing subversion client

2009-01-15 Thread Breno Jacinto
Hello, I'm trying to install subversion client in order to download some projects and try them on openmoko. It seems that there isnt a package precompiled witth subversion, and so I tried to compile from the sources, but during the ./configure phase an error message claims that it could not fin

Re: FSO stable and glamo

2009-01-15 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy, this is the diff before the rotation and after the failed | rotation (WS). How can I make sense of these values? | (I guess I might have to - I haven't read docs yet). Well, doesn't look like the res

Re: [OSX] arm-GTA02-linux-gnueabi toolchain for i386-apple-darwin

2009-01-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 09.01.2009 um 23:22 schrieb Christopher Friedt: > Good work ;-) > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> :) :) :) >> >> After doing some more magical tricks, now the glibc configure with >> NPTL >> succeeds and the first phase gcc is being built! >> >> So it

Re: FSO stable and glamo

2009-01-15 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | I could rotate here but after one more attempt I got white screen :-/ > | The behavior is not (apparently) deterministic because the first time

Ubuntu 8.10 USB Network via wcid, anyone...?

2009-01-15 Thread Pander
Hi all, I had some script to connect FreeRunner via USB Network to Ubuntu 8.10. Now I'm upgrading this to have it as automatic as possible and would like to configure http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Ubuntu_Workaround I have wcid up and running and the Wiki refers to: You can use

Re: compiling C++ in the toolchain.

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Nijs
'make distclean' did the trick. Now 'make' only complains about my C++ skills :p . I can see make's using arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ now, so I'm happy. Thank you all for the help. depeje On Wednesday 14 January 2009 22:22:27 you wrote: > You should try doing a 'make distclean' > > Juan > >

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
Thomas Kunze wrote: > I wrote a little C programm for this for zaurus pda. Nice ! I'd rather stay away from mandatory auto-detection, but user-selected auto-detection combined with a list of (hopefully ;-) safe choices should work well. - Werner ___ de

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 02:50 -0800, c_c wrote: > Hi, > > > Mirko Lindner wrote: > > > > So the settings shown in the settings app would be generated depending > > on the applications and services installed. > > > > Did this help? > > > Yup. That clarifies things. Is there any documentation /

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread c_c
Hi, Mirko Lindner wrote: > > So the settings shown in the settings app would be generated depending > on the applications and services installed. > > Did this help? > Yup. That clarifies things. Is there any documentation / discussion about how these services are registered and what service

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, c_c wrote: > Hi, > :-) Well, I think the more we get clear about where we're heading, the > better chances we have of getting somewhere close. > > > Mirko Lindner-2 wrote: >> >> My thoughts here are merely structural. It would be nice if we could >> have a service for each of those items

Re: FSO stable and glamo

2009-01-15 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I could rotate here but after one more attempt I got white screen :-/ | The behavior is not (apparently) deterministic because the first time | I tried (now shown) I got the white screen immediately. | | Th

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread c_c
Hi, :-) Well, I think the more we get clear about where we're heading, the better chances we have of getting somewhere close. Mirko Lindner-2 wrote: > > > My thoughts here are merely structural. It would be nice if we could > have a service for each of those items and load the list depending

Huge simplification of paroli-core

2009-01-15 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello all, Today I removed all the stuffs I could find in paroli-core/tichy that we don't and won't use in paroli, that is : - the dialog module (we plan to use a plugin for the Dialogs that will expose a 'DialogService' Service) - the Design service (this design was in charge of creating the vie

Re: Exposure in paroli? [was: Re: Exposure]

2009-01-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, c_c wrote: > Power > Brightness - busy/idle/answering call ->adj brightness at any time even when > i can't see anything on the screen > CPU Freq Scaling (eventually) > Times - Idle,Lock,Suspend > > Radios - GPS,WiFi,GSM,Bluetooth,All Radios - Airplane Mode,status - > connected or not/charact

Re: FSO and Paroli

2009-01-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, c_c wrote: > Ok. That clears up a few issues for me :-) Thanks. > > Here are more thoughts. > > How are you planning on showing tasks/events/appointments on the home > screen? So far no display of those infos is part of the design as there is no application for this, yet. Any volunteers ?