Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Stuart Rose
If it's a done deal, then whatever. It's not like anybody is going to choose Sabayon or leave Sabayon because of the version numbering. But if there is a choice between a number that indicates something and just the next number in an arbitrary line, I don't know why you wouldn't want a number tha

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread James Cook
correction, the argument of `dont fix what aint broke` fell on deaf ears. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joost Ruis wrote: > This is what I suggested to use as release sched, but staff didn't > agree on it so we decided to use this versioning instead. > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Stuart

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Joost Ruis
This is what I suggested to use as release sched, but staff didn't agree on it so we decided to use this versioning instead. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Stuart Rose wrote: > Why are we going to switch the versioning mechanism to another system that > tells users absolutely nothing about what

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Joost Ruis
Ah yes that explains it. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Joost Ruis wrote: >> How can you have 184 updates on a fresh installed K 6? >> >> Post some logs here. >> > > You're always behind Joost :D > > > -- > Fabio Erculiani > >

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Danilo Pianini
Stuart, that was one of the reasons because I suggested to use branching for this "milestone" system: the number might be the milestone number you want, e.g. equo hop 6 would switch the system to the status of Sabayon at the day of Sabayon 6 release. Sabayon would run by default on 5 branch (we ma

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Danilo Pianini
Well, I was not focused on security, but on updates safety issues, and, more in general, to find a way to deal with those willing to use Sabayon but without updates. They are a numerous minority (~30% of the users I follow). 2011/6/23 Cloud X. Strife : > This is true, but not all stable releases a

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Joost Ruis wrote: > How can you have 184 updates on a fresh installed K 6? > > Post some logs here. > You're always behind Joost :D -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
Ooh, of course you didn't notice it. But now stable releases are bound to the "sabayon-weekly" repository instead of "sabayonlinux.org". I just triggered a repo sync between weekly and sabayonlinux.org, now they contain the same packages. Thanks for reporting (perhaps next time attach the freaking

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Joost Ruis
How can you have 184 updates on a fresh installed K 6? Post some logs here. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM, genfool wrote: > I changed the mirrors to what they should be, now have rc10 and installing > 184 updates > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:03 AM, genfool wrote: >> >> My bad, seems the md5

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Stuart Rose
Why are we going to switch the versioning mechanism to another system that tells users absolutely nothing about what the version number means? If Sabayon 6.x (or simply 6) isn't going to correlate with an entropy branch, then the 6 doesn't tell the users anything. I understand if going all the wa

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Cloud X. Strife
This is true, but not all stable releases are "secure". Security is one reason for updates, but I do see where you are coming from. Updates break things, its inevitable. And many users I set up aren't tech savvy. On Jun 23, 2011 10:53 AM, "Danilo Pianini" wrote: > Please consider, as option, the p

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Danilo Pianini
Please consider, as option, the possibility to have a rolling branch along with fixed ones. Our default would be to be rolling, but with an equo hop you may switch to a fixed branch, like a snapshot of the status of our distro at a time. This would allow the user to install new software without bei

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread genfool
I changed the mirrors to what they should be, now have rc10 and installing 184 updates On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:03 AM, genfool wrote: > My bad, seems the md5 is correct then, I was up late last night trying to > figure out this issue and still first cup of coffee. > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread genfool
My bad, seems the md5 is correct then, I was up late last night trying to figure out this issue and still first cup of coffee. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Andre Parhan wrote: > Am I blind or do you show the amd64_K against the x86_K md5sums? > > > 2011/6/23 genfool > >> I think you are ri

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Andre Parhan
Am I blind or do you show the amd64_K against the x86_K md5sums? 2011/6/23 genfool > I think you are right, does not match what is on the mirrors, It does, but > is conflicting md5sum. I downloaded from cross-Lfs.org mirror, and it > matches the md5 they list. While other mirror show a different

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread genfool
I think you are right, does not match what is on the mirrors, It does, but is conflicting md5sum. I downloaded from cross-Lfs.org mirror, and it matches the md5 they list. While other mirror show a different md5 genfool@joker ~/Downloads $ dir Sabayon_Linux_6_amd64_K.iso genfool@joker ~/Downloads

Re: [sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
That doesn't look like: Sabayon 6 amd64 K. What's the md5 of the iso? -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Danilo Pianini wrote: > Like it, I agree. > A question for you. In the current developing model, which is the > meaning of "equo hop"? > Will we have an hop for each release, not being rolling anymore or > will it be just ignored? It depends. Perhaps a new GCC maj

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Danilo Pianini
Like it, I agree. A question for you. In the current developing model, which is the meaning of "equo hop"? Will we have an hop for each release, not being rolling anymore or will it be just ignored? In case branching is no longer used, I have a proposal to exploit this equo feature in an useful and

[sabayon-dev] sabayon 6 amd64 k

2011-06-23 Thread genfool
Everything went perfect, first boot was fine, magneto showed I had 55 updates. opened a terminal and the usual equo update equo install equo entropy equo upgrade entropy installed 164 packages, upgrade installed another 25 I have jokertu genfool # equo --version entropy: 1.0_rc7 equo: 1.0_rc7 This

Re: [sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Ian Whyman
What about freezes, RC versions etc, how about spins? On 23 June 2011 14:25, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > It has always been an unwritten rule. But now it's worth mentioning > it, even because we've also changed the release versioning. > > In short: we are going a adopt a 4-months based schedule, as

[sabayon-dev] Sabayon Release Plan

2011-06-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
It has always been an unwritten rule. But now it's worth mentioning it, even because we've also changed the release versioning. In short: we are going a adopt a 4-months based schedule, as follows: February/March, June/July, October/November, Christmas present (bonus release) So, after Sabayon 6