Re: Alternatives to waf

2017-12-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray via devel : > > Richard Laager said: > > While I agree that waf is obscure (and accordingly wish ntpsec used > > something else), it seems to do the right thing out of the box. > > What are the alternatives? Are there any good ones? I've done a lot of research and experimenting in t

Alternatives to waf

2017-12-09 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Richard Laager said: > While I agree that waf is obscure (and accordingly wish ntpsec used > something else), it seems to do the right thing out of the box. What are the alternatives? Are there any good ones? Is there a good URL discussing the issues and tradeoffs? I'm not familiar with that

Re: Python libs on Debian/Raspbian

2017-12-09 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 12/09/2017 03:18 AM, Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > There are at least three different way of installing _anything_ (let's > leave the details of Python and the various distro conventions aside for > the moment): > > 1. System-wide, distribution-blessed installation (aka packaging). > 2. System

Re: Old cruft

2017-12-09 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 12/08/2017 11:33 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:40:55 -0600 > Richard Laager wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 09:20 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: >>> By Debian rules, ulness you do some sort of over-ride, '.waf >>> install' should never, ever, install into dist-pack

Re: Python libs on Debian/Raspbian

2017-12-09 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Richard Laager via devel writes: > If you're advocating that ntpsec's default should install to a > non-standard place, such that a user MUST configure a custom PYTHONPATH > environment variable, I think literally everyone else here disagrees > with you. We are all trying to figure out how to make