Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos via devel
Supposedly leap seconds are going to be formally abandoned in a little more than a decade; but that conveniently ignores the vagaries of the earth's wobbling, which are not deterministic, so it's just a different kind of folly by our fellow meat puppets. On 12/22/2022 23:13 PM, James Browning

Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread James Browning via devel
> On 12/22/2022 7:49 PM PST Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > > Fred Wright said: > > If you make it 24 hours, there's the question of whether that means 86400 > > seconds or 86401. :-) > > That ones easy. It's 86400 smeared seconds and 86401 real seconds. > > That's the whole point of smearing.

Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Fred Wright said: > If you make it 24 hours, there's the question of whether that means 86400 > seconds or 86401. :-) That ones easy. It's 86400 smeared seconds and 86401 real seconds. That's the whole point of smearing. :) -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. _

Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Fred Wright said: > Any sane implementation of NTP ought to perform all synchronization on the > TAI timescale, with conversions between TAI and UTC being part of the I/O. > Using leap-smeared time on the wire makes this mapping inconsistent. I agree, but most of the world is stuck with POSIX p

Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Fred! On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:00:37 -0800 (PST) Fred Wright via devel wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > > Google says: > > https://developers.google.com/time/smear > > We encourage anyone smearing leap seconds to use a 24-hour linear > > smear from noon to noon U

Re: Broken for OpenSSL 1.1

2022-12-22 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Fred Wright said: > IIRC you put in a Linux-specific hack to allow building against a > non-default OpenSSL, but it's not very general. If it were fixed to honor > pkgconfig (which is nontrivial to do correctly), then on any platform all > one would have to do for an alternate OpenSSL is to poin

Re: We need to test leap smearing :)

2022-12-22 Thread Fred Wright via devel
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, Hal Murray via devel wrote: Google says: https://developers.google.com/time/smear We encourage anyone smearing leap seconds to use a 24-hour linear smear from noon to noon UTC. There were earlier versions which did sine rather than linear. Hmm. I don't recall any non

Re: Broken for OpenSSL 1.1

2022-12-22 Thread Fred Wright via devel
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, Fred Wright via devel wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, Hal Murray wrote: I guess if you don't see the issue I'll have to look more closely; I thought you might "just know" the problem. Does git head work on 3.0? Yes. I think it gets confused when the OpenSSL version it's