Re: Testing tests

2018-09-14 Thread John D. Bell via devel
___ > devel mailing list > devel@ntpsec.org > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel --   - *John D. Bell* ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

test message from JDB

2018-09-14 Thread John D. Bell via devel
This is a test message to the mailing list, to diagnose apparent failure to deliver, etc. It can safely be ignored.   - *John D. Bell* ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Dump bison

2018-06-22 Thread John D. Bell via devel
, 'itemset', 'lookahead', 'solved' (shift/reduce conflicts), or 'all'     Does any of this help?   - *John D. Bell* On 06/22/2018 02:24 PM, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: > Hal Murray : >> e...@thyrsus.com said: >>> If we had intr

Re: warning:Mime-Version: 1.0

2018-06-18 Thread John D. Bell via devel
I've not looked at the build system configuration *at all* closely (perhaps a more accurate reading would be "at all"), but can't you just configure it to not use the offending -W switch when analyzing/compiling the parser's C code?   - *John D. Bell* On 06/18/2018

Fwd: [cont...@ntpsec.org] draft-ietf-ntp-ma and draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp in NTPSec?

2018-02-28 Thread John D. Bell via devel
Gentlemen,     This was sent to "cont...@ntpsec.org", and I thought it should end up to your attention.   - JDB Forwarded Message Subject:[cont...@ntpsec.org] draft-ietf-ntp-ma and draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp in NTPSec? Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 04:25:23 +

Re: Should the HAVE_KERNEL_PLL conditional be abolished?

2017-12-03 Thread John D. Bell via devel
resultant "versions"?     This _might_ give you the ability to see the 'shape' of the code under the various assumptions about supported kernel features, etc.   - *John D. Bell* On 12/03/2017 05:17 PM, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: > Hal Murray : >> e...@th

Re: ✘c2go

2017-11-08 Thread John D. Bell via devel
either. Eric, since you are an expert in YACC-based systems, would it be worth the effort to write such an AST-generating parser, and using *that*?  Maybe not to the level of a releasable tool, but to get beyond the 80% point?  Or does that fall under

Re: Is it time to plan a move to Go?

2017-11-06 Thread John D. Bell via devel
eleased versions should be in a "tried and true" language (_even_ with the security/reliability considerations.) My $0.02 worth.   - *John D. Bell* ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread John D. Bell via devel
7/2017 03:59 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > Yo Eric! > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:51:13 -0400 > "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote: > >> John D. Bell : >>> I thought that one necessity before 1.0 were at least preliminary >>> "packaged"

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread John D. Bell via devel
On 08/07/2017 12:58 PM, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: > Summary: > > * We need to start working towards a 1.0 release no later than 28 September. > > * I need our senior devs to identify any release-blocker issues > and tell me what they think our pre-release priorities shou

Fwd: [cont...@ntpsec.org] Uputronics Ublox GPS v3.2b (c) 2016 & Additional Raspberry Pi revision detection info.

2017-07-19 Thread John D. Bell via devel
Gentlemen - I got this via "cont...@ntpsec.org". Don't have the nsec right now to figure out if his is a lost cause or not - JDB Forwarded Message Subject:[cont...@ntpsec.org] Uputronics Ublox GPS v3.2b (c) 2016 & Additional Raspberry Pi revision detection info.

Re: Big picture...

2017-04-19 Thread John D. Bell
as well push the portability/compatibility issues off onto the maintainers of the interpreter. - John D. Bell ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Big picture...

2017-04-18 Thread John D. Bell
specially the Server ones which would be more in use in datacenters). - John D. Bell On 04/18/2017 03:06 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Hal Murray : >>>> If we are using a build time, we can run an external script >>>> to generate the date in a convenient format. >&

Re: ✘buildprep

2017-01-21 Thread John D. Bell
Eric, The old-school way to check this is "id | grep 'uid=0(' >/dev/null" and look at the exit status. Has worked as far back as SunOS 4 and systems in that era; works AFAIK on all Linux distros. - John D. Bell On 01/21/2017 01:50 AM, Eric S. Raymond

Re: RfC: grant gitlab "guest" just for the asking

2017-01-03 Thread John D. Bell
Mark, On that page you cited, it says " On public and internal projects the Guest role is not enforced. All users will be able to create issues, leave comments, and pull or download the project code." Since NTPsec is a public project, *can* one explicitly grant 'Guest' access? Or is th

Re: How much do we care about high-load scenarios?

2016-09-14 Thread John D. Bell
get the code simplified and streamlined in single-thread mode as far as possible, and then design and code a POSIX-threading-conformant "improvement". - *John D. Bell* ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: question about upgrading from Classic to NTPsec (packaging issue)

2016-07-05 Thread John D. Bell
Sorry about that. I think I'll have the installer check for existing version(s) in /usr/sbin and /usr/local, somehow preserve it (tarball in /usr/local/ntp/old_version ?) and put symlinks in /usr/*bin to point to the stuff in /usr/local. Let me think about this some more.

Re: question about upgrading from Classic to NTPsec (packaging issue)

2016-07-05 Thread John D. Bell
file put things into /usr/local, and using the /etc/alternatives symlink trick to pick out the 'right' version. And of course having an uninstall script which backs it all out, and undoes the symlink indirection. Thoughts? - *John D. Bell* On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Gary E.

Re: question about upgrading from Classic to NTPsec (packaging issue)

2016-07-04 Thread John D. Bell
directory with a "-rpmnew" suffix. Then the admin has to resolve conflicts manually. > Where would you document what happened and/or how to switch back? Good question. Suggestions? - *John D. Bell* ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

question about upgrading from Classic to NTPsec (packaging issue)

2016-07-03 Thread John D. Bell
suggest I treat the presence of a ''conflicting'' version? Save the config files, and overwrite/remove all the old executables? Move everything aside, and put our entire "best practices" package in place?? Ask for manual intervention??? Halt, catch fire, burn it all

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread John D. Bell
Sorry for the double email. The list won't let me post from my ''real'' address. On Jun 13, 2016 6:58 PM, "John D. Bell" wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > I will not (at least for the foreseeable future) be able to make > ticktock.uh.utoled

Re: State of the test farm

2016-06-06 Thread John D. Bell
controllably. Welcome to the Dark Side Systems Administration! /me hands Eric a cookie. :D - John D. Bell ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel