Test farm news

2016-06-17 Thread Eric S. Raymond
A description of the test farm facilities and how to get access is up at https://www.ntpsec.org/testfarm.html The first major test run is now in day two. It's using fe, nd, and ne; The Pi 2s, au and cu are available. I jusr assembled the sixth node and will bring it up this weekend. It will

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-17 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > > g...@rellim.com said: > > You need to do more than shutdown ntpd to get back to pre-ntp initial > > conditions. For a real good test you need to set the system clock off by > > maybe a minute, or an hour ,or maybe back to 1970. Remove the drift file. >

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-17 Thread Hal Murray
g...@rellim.com said: > You need to do more than shutdown ntpd to get back to pre-ntp initial > conditions. For a real good test you need to set the system clock off by > maybe a minute, or an hour ,or maybe back to 1970. Remove the drift file. > Remove the battery from you GPS. And probably

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > So, you got your logging on now? Otherwise you have missed my point. It's in the configuration for the test farm runs, which will launch in a few hours. Need to finish the manager script first. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/;>Eric S. Raymond

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:36:27 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > > That's good enough that we can *and should* ignore all the > > > technical complexities of fudging and log interpretation. We are > > > *not addressing time nuts*

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:01:34 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > I'm still waiting for the good reason. You can't ask the user to > > pick good offsets when he does not have the data for it. > I say this because I've watched enough Pi 3 output to know that at >

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > And none of this will do you any good until you wait another 7 days. If > you had turned on logging last week you would have the data to look at > now. There were good reasons I didn't. Verifying a configuration that is as simple and readily understandable as

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > > I can easily shut down and restart all ntpds - in fact I'll have to in > > order to get the new configs read. > > You need to do more than shutdown ntpd to get back to pre-ntp initial > conditions. For a real good test you need to set the system clock off >

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > Looks good to me. By not having it on to start with you lost a lot > of data on how long it takes ntpd to converge. I can easily shut down and restart all ntpds - in fact I'll have to in order to get the new configs read. --

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread John D. Bell
Sorry for the double email. The list won't let me post from my ''real'' address. On Jun 13, 2016 6:58 PM, "John D. Bell" wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > I will not (at least for the foreseeable future) be able to make > ticktock.uh.utoledo.edu visible off campus. However, I

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > Don't worry about what the graphs mean, you need a weeks data graphed to > see the full effect. You have been running ntpd stats logging, right? Not yet. Would you please look at the use-performance-logging snippet under etc and correct that if you need to?

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:59:16 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Another donation arrived today - an Uputronics HAT and ModMyPi case > made for it, with an exit hole for the SMA jack. (Thank you, Anthony > Stirk!) I have ordered another Pi 3 to go with it. Cool! then

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
Newer Pis have the power going in the side rather than end. That's going to make a similar rack difficult to assemble. > But I'd hate like hell to have results from a multi-day profiling run > ruined. Preventive measures seem required. Get used to it. There are all sorts of reasons why

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:15:48 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > Had you considered opening the window a crack and putting the Pi's > > outside? > > Worth a try. Dunno if it has a wide enough ledge to support them. Nail a shelf to the outside of the house? RGDS

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:48:20 -0400 (EDT) e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) wrote: > This afternoon I found that two of the Pis on the Official Windowsill > of Mad Science had been dislodged and fallen to my desk. Had you considered opening the window a crack and putting the Pi's

Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
This afternoon I found that two of the Pis on the Official Windowsill of Mad Science had been dislodged and fallen to my desk. A couple of bent Venetian blinds behind them were a clue to the identity of the culprit - to wit, my cat Zola. He means no harm, but he is a lively and curious creature