Re: on the NTP security issues and fixes

2016-05-04 Thread Gary E. Miller
the jitter as chronyd had when I turned it off. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpqP1UhELu_c.pgp Description:

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
nfigure' finished successfully (0.150s) I suggest avoiding #46. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgplnUFOTORke.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:11:05 -0400 Frank wrote: > > On May 5, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > >> “force_turbo=1” forces the Pi to run at maximum clock speed all the > >> time. This generates heat & increased power consumption. I

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
amp; confirm the serial port is still > reliable. Cool. Thanks! RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpJdCIk854Wj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ne. gpsd really shines for standalone, non-network time keeping, and that is where ntpd, by design, sucks. So until a good working handshake is rock solid, and standalone is well supported, I say keep 20. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
df > > Or the GR-801R has real RS-232 levels. > ... > > Have you been able to order small quantities? I have a few GR-601W left if anyone wants. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suit

Re: GPSD/JSON driver

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
nd jarring changes from minute to minute on the 46 cause ntpd to mark the JSON time as a false ticker. Unuseable in its default configuration. We can't inflict bad defaults on users. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 10

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Mark! Deal. Shipping address? On Thu, 05 May 2016 18:50:22 + Mark Atwood wrote: > Hello Gary. Could you ship me a 601W? I will send you a 701W in > trade when the shipment from Navisys comes in. ..m > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM Gary E. Miller wrote: &

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
f -C ntp.conf" RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpNlXKkv22eA.pgp Description:

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
milliSec away. So, for a lightly loaded network, the Pi2 ethernet is not a major problem. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
s sending the IPs for NTP servers, they get inserted in the file. It appends this at the bottom: # Generated by dhcpcd from lxcbr0.dhcp server 204.17.205.8 server 204.17.205.1 server 204.17.205.7 # End of dhcpcd from lxcbr0.dhcp RGDS GARY --------

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
y and binary. Since ntpd only needs the basic NMEA it need not have the bulk of gpsd's drivers. Maybe call it gpsd-lite. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
pcd from lxcbr0.dhcp > > Bletch. That is totally inappropriate for a Stratum 1, Perversely, since this is your stratum 1, one of the servers set up by dhcpcd is the public IP of your stratum 1. Thus the: -C ntp.conf RGDS GARY ---------

Re: Refclock cleanup

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
> > need not have the bulk of gpsd's drivers. > > Some of the fun stuff may be interesting to log/monitor. The TAI to UTC offset is buried in proprietary odd places. That would be really nice to have. But all the altitude, depth, heading and temp stuff could go away. RGDS GA

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
thing actionable for short term. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpzAv8Qqv9CJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.o

Re: Refclock cleanup

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
hairs, yes, but I like to see how fine I can split that hair. And nowhere near the theoretical 15 nanoSec PPS I'd like to see. :-) RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ightly tested. Or run gpsd first, then simply "gpsmon" to run it in client mode. Then gpsd does all the work. I never use gpsmon, preferring cgps. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E

✘Man page bug

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ntpleapfetch.8 ntptime.8 ntpwait.8 The proper place would be:/usr/local/man/man1, etc. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ol, at least use a US pool. Like: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.us.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.us.pool.ntp.org iburst server 3.us.pool.ntp.org iburst RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., S

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Thu, 5 May 2016 18:30:25 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > Or, maybe looking at in the inverse manner, have a gpsd that can be > > stripped down to the bare minimum for ntpd use. > > We can already do that. Try building GPSD

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
-backup.rellim.c 204.17.205.8 2 s 61 64 3770.4230.071 3.575 8 microSec jitter on PPS, 0.025 milliSec offset from my main GPS PPS server (spidey). RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmingt

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ay overflow. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpPVuPSoTgq9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing li

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
a good config nailed down & not > touch it. Once you have it how you like it, you only touch it for IP changes. > > On May 5, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > I use the 28 refclock, you the 20. > > Regarding 28 ref clock, that is SHM? Why that rather

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
S, there are periodic (not every second) sentences > that will cause a cycle to extend beyond one (1) second at 9600. Yup, not good. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: ???Man page bug

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Amar! On Thu, 5 May 2016 23:26:34 + Amar Takhar wrote: > On 2016-05-05 14:59 -0700, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo All! > > > > Found a bug in NTPsec git head. > > Whoa, thanks. Can you open a ticket for this please? Gotta link to y

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
s. I should have some remote S2's for sanity checking. The pi has them indirectly through my local servers. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
#x27;ll need to disconnect the PPS to see it... Another negative of excessive application of KISS. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpsC87x4XdxM.pgp Description: Open

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Thu, 5 May 2016 20:53:32 -0400 Frank Nicholas wrote: > > On May 5, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > >> > >> I don’t know enough to answer regarding “coarse time”. Here’s my > >> output (FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE): > > >

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
n option to split them. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpynjAZzSHWO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
ckets sounds like a good option. Works for chrony. Not a rush. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Thu, 5 May 2016 22:25:58 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > To avoid confusion we > > should refer to this as gpsd-lite, or, I'm open to a better name. > > People hear just &

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Thu, 5 May 2016 23:05:28 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > The problem is 98% of UNIX users are afraid to compile anything. > > They want to know how to 'apt-get' a binary. How do we get distros > > to do a gpsd-max an

Re: ???Man page bug

2016-05-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Amar! On Fri, 6 May 2016 02:45:56 + Amar Takhar wrote: > On 2016-05-05 17:24 -0700, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > Gotta link to your bug tracker? > > Sorry, I should have provided that: > > https://gitlab.com/groups/NTPsec/issues Bug posted.

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
PPS_H, PPS accuracy will suffer\n", > NEWS is still the same: Yeah, NEWS is not used by gpsd for trivial commits, that is in the git log. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, B

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:01:05 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > When you disconnect the PPS, your GPS_NMEA(0) can no longer report > > PPS base time, so it will report the NMEA based time. To not so > > closely related times, mushed

Re: on the NTP security issues and fixes

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:39:55 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > Yo All! > > > > I pulled git head, running it now on a server in place of chronyd. > > > > Seems to work OK. I'll keep an eye on it. > > Th

Re: on the NTP security issues and fixes

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
make a #49 that works, that would be the most portable and flexible thing. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: QNX (was: Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
through this, Frank and Gary. You've > clarified several murky issues. And more to come... It also helps when someone acts on the knowledge. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E,

Re: on the NTP security issues and fixes

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Daniel! On Fri, 6 May 2016 15:34:29 -0400 Daniel Franke wrote: > On 5/6/16, Gary E. Miller wrote: > >> Do we have to live with long convergence times? Do you have any > >> theory about what causes this and how it can be fixed? > > > > I have not gone

Re: QNX (was: Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 6 May 2016 15:53:15 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > > We *will* assume POSIX-compliant shared memory on our target > > > systems. > > > > QNX has POSIX compliant shared memory, just the new one, not the > &g

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
0000.638 0.351 *SHM(2) .SHM.0 l6 16 770.000 -0.248 0.033 -GPSD_JSON(0).GPSD. 0 l 22 6430.000 -130.39 0.104 +GPSD_JSON(128) .GPSD. 0 l 21 6430.000 0.134 0.817 I feel another bug report coming on RG

Re: on the NTP security issues and fixes

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 6 May 2016 15:56:20 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > > That's valuable feedback, seeing as I just performed the major > > > surgery of removing Autokey. > > > > Yeah, and two new bugs in your queue... &g

Re: SHM

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
ion to a hard problem. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgphloIDesUyw.pgp Description: Open

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
nt changes, do: gpsd # git log -p RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpaZ59cBpDeO.pgp Description: OpenPGP dig

Re: QNX (was: Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Fri, 6 May 2016 17:32:12 -0400 Frank Nicholas wrote: > > On May 6, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > "System V shared memory (shmget(2), shmop(2), etc.) is an > > older shared memory API. POSIX shared memory provides a simp

Re: SHM

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
e folks worried about socket jitter need convincing. I do not think socket jitter is a problem. But bigger problems with the socket JSON now. I'll be posting more bug reports on that over the weekend. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E.

Re: SHM

2016-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
or the transit delay. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpdXbvV43wUn.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel ma

Re: Future drivers

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
et - we need to (a) get our > testing act together and (b) earn the political cred from wider-scale > adoption first. Yes, NTPsec needs to prove it can make the exising ntpd better in a side-to-side bake-off. Only when it has a following will the followers follow to a better pla

Re: ntpd 1PPS binding considered awful

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
s > proven so difficult that I'm now casting about for ways to simplify > the problem. What you don't see this way is the edge cases, where the bugs are. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
NIST in MD: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000277 time-a.nist.gov : 129.6.15.28 Politeness says you shuold only have one of you chimers polling those. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
20 and just PPS on refclock #22. Now it is easy to see the NMEA status and the PPS status individually. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: ntpd 1PPS binding considered awful

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:38:49 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > > The Pi might be it. I have it set up to monitor four pool servers > > > with noselect. I get output like this: > > > > Whoops, don't do that. The

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
ve the distros gpsd and ntpd service files. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpps9e8eZeFf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:58:45 -0400 Frank Nicholas wrote: > > On May 9, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > But, you still need to tell the user how to remove the distros gpsd > > and ntpd service files. > > Aren’t they part of the D

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
ing with actual humans it is good to circle back on tests from different angles to catch the sloppy. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Mon, 9 May 2016 19:22:23 -0400 Frank Nicholas wrote: > > On May 9, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > Almost good enough. A lot of people might install gpsd, then > > forget they did, or their lab partner might have installed it. Or > >

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
ocument it, send it to gpsd-dev and we'll get it added to the main gpsd tarball. Then the systemd distros have something to start with. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
hen no software solution is right solution. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpivfvgpkMrg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital sig

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
gg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124160&cm_re=pci_serial_port_card-_-15-124-160-_-Product Easy to use, but in practice I have not found the RasPi ethernet to perform any worse than a GigE port on a motherboard. RGDS GARY ----

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
7;m not a systemd guy, so you gotta make it easy for me. :-) RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpWjoxoQ1bER.pgp Description

Fw: NIST NTP servers

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
oftware won't step the clock more than IIRC 15 > > minutes. Yes, that can cause problems, but not the catastrophes of > > years in the future or Jan 1, 1970 mentioned in this thread. > > > > Is it possible to cause problems? Yes. Is it a practical att

Re: Security and standalone Stratum 1.

2016-05-11 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:28:05 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > 5. Disallow internal system to seek NTP from other sources beyond > > your edge routers. > > But now I learn that we apparently can't do that, because (accordi

✘Refclock #20 flakey with marginal GPS signal.

2016-05-11 Thread Gary E. Miller
/NTPsec/ntpsec/issues/62 RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpmWpcEgyLTf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Gary E. Miller
a USB2 device. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpxuPo4YxP5_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Gary E. Miller
NTP. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpnYkS7nPmHT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mai

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Gary E. Miller
OS, not the network itself. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpJe1hMceFzr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Chris! On Fri, 13 May 2016 10:46:05 +1000 Chris Johns wrote: > On 13/05/2016 07:37, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > > It would be insane for a switch to have EEE enabled without a way to > > turn it off, so you likely have never seen it turned on. > > The switch sh

Re: Proposal for discussion - remove all Windows-port cruft

2016-05-13 Thread Gary E. Miller
did not work yet. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgp3TucIcAfDc.pgp Description: OpenPGP d

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
herwise people end up using bad chimers from halfway around the world, and wondering why ntpd works so badly. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
Like a version number or something? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpCmzNTyWJvN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital sig

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
pen ntp NTP v4 (primary server) MAC Address: 00:25:90:F3:55:DB (Super Micro Computer) RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
ARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 > > siguser@jasper:~$ sudo nmap -sV -T4 -O -F --version-light > 192.168.56.101 [sudo] password for siguser: > > Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 20

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
15:0:225:90ff:fef3:55da rDNS record for 204.17.205.27: > >>> kong.rellim.com PORTSTATE SERVICE VERSION > >>> 123/udp open ntp NTP v4 (primary server) > >>> MAC Address: 00:25:90:F3:55:DB (Super Micro Computer) > RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
catbert:/etc/fail2ban# ntpq -c "rv 0 version" dagwood dagwood.rellim.com: timed out, nothing received RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@relli

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
k... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgp6OoLjqTTkV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-15 Thread Gary E. Miller
t;with Linux your > results may vary and if they do, do not call us, rather bound the > latency some how, eg an RTOS". FUD. Tthey just don't understand, or want to support Linux. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rel

✘git head broken on new Gentoo install

2016-05-16 Thread Gary E. Miller
from pylib.configure import cmd_configure File "/usr/local/src/NTP/ntpsec/pylib/configure.py", line 154 print "IDDescription" ^ SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print' RGDS GARY --------

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Gary E. Miller
easy to get wrong. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpQ0d0CoBWRb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Gary E. Miller
ssword. Poor man's two factor authentication. I could rant on sudo for hours, but I'll pause now... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Gary E. Miller
ading edge, but is the leading edge the assert (rising) or clear (falling) edge? leading -> assert (rising) trailing -> falling The adafruit HAT has the leading edge on the assert edge. Other GPS can have the leading edge on the falling edge... --- " as your Odroid will be ru

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-21 Thread Gary E. Miller
he srouce is installed in. > The other is that securing the machine is a policy step, implictly > optional. NOOO! Not optional!!! > > Mumble. That's long and complicated. I would simplify things > > greatly. Drop the ppio detects column until we get an examp

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-21 Thread Gary E. Miller
tor. Gack, no. The USB delay is much less than the sample interval on the USB 1.1 bus. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgplKiylRbYdI.pgp Description:

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
ty.freescale.com/thread/381834 Or, I think, you can put assert-falling-edge on the boot command line. Can you send details of your setup? esr has been looking for test cases where the 'other' edge is used. RGDS GARY -----------

Re: Accounts on my bastion host for test farm access

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
r example, real time scatter plots instead of having to wait like gpsprod does. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 858

Re: Accounts on my bastion host for test farm access

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
eed to manage even of the remote chimers for data. Then if someone could tie in a local Cs or Rb clock... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
some ntpd capable graphing code I'll make use of it. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpPjvFSQxxcC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:20:10 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > I think we gotta send less grunt work to Eric when we can do it > > ourselves. > > I'm sorry, but yes, you do need to do that. Glad we are on the same page.

Re: Figures of merit for time servers

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
it is specific to the Trimble style of cell tower reference clocks. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 3

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! Serious progress! On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:46:32 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > Great progress, but... > > > > It could use some photos, got a smart phone with camera? > > There is now one photo, of the blue-wire mod r

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
it every day. Your NAT is doing nothing for you. So much for your security... RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpUA0mT2mVR3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
harvesting good IPv6 addresses. > I'm guessing the bad guys aren't geared up to scan IPv6 > yet. Right, but they use other techniques. This is not the place to go into the details, but if you google it you will see it can be pretty easy to find all your IPv6 addresses. RGDS GARY --

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
to do a lot of ddimage runs to > the test farm machines. I shall meditate on this. The Zen of Linux, much to ponder, but also work to be done. Feel free to skip it. > > Ah, OK. Maybe we can get it in all gpsd buids soon? :-) > > I'm thinking about forcing -n when the command

Re: HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
is growing. And you are a target. Until you know how you were hacked earlier this year you do not know this was not how. And then you don't know if this one is next. The primary defense is simple, change passwords FIRST. RGDS GARY

Re: HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
Stratum 1 HowTo, not an SSH security Howto. It threatens to become an everything about Unix Howto. I'd be happy if we don't say anything wrong, and leave the related best practices to others to document. So maybe you have a good link for a 'Further Reading' appendix? RGDS GARY

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
ge at the end. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
Philadelphia lawyers. Lawyers know logic. Buy her a steak. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpqJIn_vVsGi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
eir versions of things like kernels are really old. Leave it as a project for someone else. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 85

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-25 Thread Gary E. Miller
use it as another filter layer to minimize 'sawtooth' and 'bridging' on the PPS. Then you are getting into time-nuts territory. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR

Re: Figures of merit for time servers

2016-05-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
heard a lot of other OS are not so lucky. So maybe the best you can do is conditional compile it when needed? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.

Fw: [Pool] ntp server performance and score

2016-05-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
neat to figure out a cool group nickname... RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 21

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