Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-20 Thread Johann Fischer
Am Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:01:58 +0100 schrieb Oleg Hahm oliver.h...@inria.fr: Was this a vote for a function pointer based HAL or just a Torvalds-like reflex? If the former is the case, then I'm apparently the only one - counting the silent people on this topic as agreeing or not caring -

Re: [riot-devel] tool chain recommendation

2015-02-20 Thread Lucas Jenß
In case it helps, http://watr.li/samr21-dev-setup-ubuntu.html explains how I set up my dev environment for the SAMR :) Cheers, Lucas On 20/02/15 12:32, Ralph Droms (rdroms) wrote: On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:07 AM 2/20/15, Ludwig Ortmann ludwig.ortm...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi, I'm glad you found

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Kaspar! Using a weird compiler that cannot output the required object files because it is closed source and proprietary is purely political. That compiler could be changed trivially *if it would be open source* or the vendor was inclined to do so. This doesn't count as technical reason.

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hi, On 02/20/15 13:07, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: Saying otherwise makes clear that the persons are not aware of the troubles embedded linux companies go through when developing proprietary devices using (L)GPLed linux + libraries. What do you mean by proprietary device? Routers,

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Emmanuel Baccelli
Hi Kaspar, On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Kaspar Schleiser kas...@schleiser.de wrote: Hey Matthias, On 02/19/15 23:47, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: As you pointed out in your email, there are scenarios where the approach will not help due to technical reasons (and using a weird

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing - This is just to state an opinion of a different kind :-)

2015-02-20 Thread Thomas C. Schmidt
Hi guys, sorry to interrupt here: You are discussing the question whether Linux is available for more hardware than RIOT ??? Even though this discussion may be a nice amusing chat for tea time (imagining a 'native port' of Linux running as a RIOT Thread, RIOT on a CRAY Supercomputer, RIOT

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing - This is just to state an opinion of a different kind :-)

2015-02-20 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hi, On 02/20/15 13:50, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: sorry to interrupt here: You are discussing the question whether Linux is available for more hardware than RIOT ??? No. We're discussing if developing proprietary products using RIOT is comparable to developing proprietary products using embedded

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hi, On 02/20/15 12:41, Oleg Hahm wrote: Using a weird compiler that cannot output the required object files because it is closed source and proprietary is purely political. That compiler could be changed trivially *if it would be open source* or the vendor was inclined to do so. This doesn't

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-20 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hi, On 02/20/15 08:01, Oleg Hahm wrote: A bit polemic: can't we use Java then and rely on a highly optimized (micro) JVM? ;) Maybe the question here is if we should concentrate on gcc and clang and keep weird, esoteric, proprietary compilers that someone might use someday in an

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Emmanuel Baccelli
Hi Matthias, On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Matthias Waehlisch m.waehli...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Hi Kaspar, sorry for the silence! As you pointed out in your email, there are scenarios where the approach will not help due to technical reasons (and using a weird compiler might have