Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-03 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register information and such. It is always easier to get specs if you are

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 01:06:23PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: For several years the mga fb kernel driver has supported dual head and/or dvi on cards which aren't supported

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-02 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:13:45AM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 01:06:23PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: For several years the

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:59:54PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-01 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: For several years the mga fb kernel driver has supported dual head and/or dvi on cards which aren't supported by the XFree86 driver (unless you use the mga_hal). I've wanted to use

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-02-01 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 01:06:23PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: And, have you asked the mgafb driver author about this ? You can hardly complain about lack of back traffic if you didn't ask him about it, and if you did, it would be interesting to this discussion to know what the

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register information and such. It is always easier to get specs if you are working for

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Andrew C Aitchison wrote: As I remember it, the pertinent register information here was reverse engineered, so it is at least arguable that I'd be copying fbdev intellectual property here if I'd extracted and reused it. Perhaps I was wrong, but my understanding from my days in a software house

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 08:25:40PM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote: Sven Luther writes: Maybe a decision on both parts on this would be ok ? XFree86 could make sure the licence of the driver code would not conflict with the GPL, keeping the old

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: For several years the mga fb kernel driver has supported dual head and/or dvi on cards which aren't supported by the XFree86 driver (unless you use the mga_hal). I've wanted to use kernel code to add this support to

RE: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Dr. Rich Murphey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Vojkovich Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
The Author ? This is open source code; there may be 27 authors of the relevant file. In XFree86 code I wouldn't know how to find the author of a file without looking at that file. My {limited ,mis}understanding of clean room coding makes me wary of reading any source unless I know that its

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Dr. Rich Murphey wrote: You can take an XFree86 driver, regardless of what the copyright says, and completely rewrite it as an fbdev driver (which is what I believe usually happens) and this is not a violation of the XFree86 copyright or even of the GPL. Copyright doesn't apply to ideas or

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 08:25:40PM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote: Sven Luther writes: Maybe a decision on both parts on this would be ok ? XFree86 could make sure the licence of the driver code would not conflict with the GPL, keeping the old one for example, and the fbdev driver authors