Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-03-26 Thread Gordon Ross
FYI, for NexentaStor we made sharesmb a "no-inherit" property. (because most customers want "traverse mounts" in SMB, meaning the SMB server exposes descendent file systems) Note also that the most common situation (by far) for customer configurations is that a shared ZFS dataset should show up i

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-27 Thread zfs-devel
Am 26.02.2019 um 06:42 schrieb George Wilson: > > A couple of months ago we discussed the issues surrounding zfs > properties which have platform specific implementations. The example > given was “sharenfs” which has platform-specific syntax and > platform-specific implementations. Having platfor

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Joshua M. Clulow
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 13:56, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > I know that we (RackTop) are moving towards managing file system (dataset) > mounts more manually. That absolutely makes sense for an appliance where you have extremely specific needs, and total control over the management of ZFS. In the re

RE: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Garrett D'Amore
invent their own properties as needed. This feels like a solution in search of a problem. Garrett From: Matthew Ahrens Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:27 PM To: openzfs-developer Subject: Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties To respond to a few of the points on this thread

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Matthew Ahrens
To respond to a few of the points on this thread: 1. If we need finer granularity than Linux/illumos/FreeBSD/OSX/Windows (e.g. distribution vs operating system), it seems like that would fit into this proposal. E.g. Substitute distro for OS in the suffix. Are there specific examples of ways that

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Richard Elling
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > The unmount prior to sharing is actually interesting… while it isn’t > particularly cross-platform, its very analogous to the problems we had with > dynamic reconfiguration, where we wanted to vacate I/O from an adapter prior > to remo

RE: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Garrett D'Amore
us that are NAS vendors already know how to manage this cleanly anyway. Garrett From: Richard Elling Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:34 AM To: openzfs-developer Subject: Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties On Feb 25, 2019, at 9:53 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrot

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Richard Elling
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 9:53 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > I suspect having the platform “resolve” which property to use is going to be > problematic at the very best. The semantics are platform specific, and to > make matters worse, I suspect that even on some platforms, you will find > dis

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread Joshua M. Clulow
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 06:59, George Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:54 PM Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> I suspect having the platform “resolve” which property to use is going to be >> problematic at the very best. The semantics are platform specific, and to >> make matters worse, I sus

Re: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-26 Thread George Wilson
ve attempts to convert, is > probably the next best option. > > > > Garrett > > > > *From: *George Wilson > *Sent: *Monday, February 25, 2019 9:43 PM > *To: *openzfs-developer > *Subject: *[developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties > > > &

RE: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
broad agreement about the property contents. Absent that, namespace separation, *without* naïve attempts to convert, is probably the next best option. Garrett From: George Wilson Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 9:43 PM To: openzfs-developer Subject: [developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS

[developer] Proposal: Platform-specific ZFS properties

2019-02-25 Thread George Wilson
A couple of months ago we discussed the issues surrounding zfs properties which have platform specific implementations. The example given was “sharenfs” which has platform-specific syntax and platform-specific implementations. Having platform-specific syntax for these types of properties means that