Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-28 Thread Sean Fagan
On Mar 28, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Gregor Kopka wrote: > With it being a configuration file you're done with > zfs; (not even having to do the second step for > modifications made to prior to the update as > usually offers to merge existing changes into the new > version being installed). I r

Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/25/19 3:52 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > The distros can lag arbitrarily far behind, and we have no control over > them. They can lag arbitrarily far behind in theory, but in practice the lag will be bounded. If one of the "tier 1" distros stops updating their ZFS packaging in a timely manner,

Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:43 PM Richard Laager wrote: > On 3/25/19 8:15 AM, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > "-o features=portable" means that features that are currently supported > by all tier-1 platforms. This definition will change over time. > Specifically, as of the current date, the following all

Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/25/19 8:15 AM, Josh Paetzel wrote: > Portability of boot pools is currently not a consideration. Dealing with this for boot pools is a serious and timely concern of mine. I use Ubuntu, which uses GRUB. It is clear that, in practice, GRUB is not going to be kept up-to-date with new OpenZFS fea

Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/25/19 8:15 AM, Josh Paetzel wrote: > "-o features=portable" means that features that are currently supported by > all tier-1 platforms. This definition will change over time. Specifically, > as of the current date, the following all supported the features: >- a numbered release of Free

Re: [developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Rich
First, let me say I'm so pleased someone actually drove this forward, thank you. :) I think my only lament about this would be the lack of zpool create defaults, but that's a conversation for once everyone is confident this doesn't cook your pool somehow. - Rich On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:16 AM J

[developer] zpool create proposal summary

2019-03-25 Thread Josh Paetzel
This email is a summarization of the current proposal for easing the task of creating OS portable pools with zpool create. There's been a ton of discussion around this feature and we wanted to summarize the current discussion in preparation for tomorrow's meeting: Add new options to "zpool cre