. are well- defined tools with well-defined interfaces, manuals,
etc.. They are not internal helpers.
[1] we already copy the .dll files because of that problem and the DLLs
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But I'll happily implement those changes if it helps!
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a) it exists
b) it works
c) it's the official and documented way of creating Qt applications in Qt 5
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The distros *will* apply renaming. And without our help, they may introduce
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about
the modality? Do people usually refer to it as the window modality? Food for
thought.
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another bootstrapped executable.
Please comment.
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Fedora packagers.
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) that requires installing one more .pc file, in addition to the ones we have
d) the location of this pkg-config install is most likely *different* from
$libdir/pkgconfig.
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1) we introduce a $libexecdir configuration option to qmake and
QLibraryInfo. For backwards compatibility, this $libexecdir will receive
the legacy names of QT_INSTALL_BINS and QLibraryInfo::BinariesPath. It will
default
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On sábado, 20 de outubro de 2012 10.28.35, Stephen Kelly wrote:
On Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:30:36 Alberto Mardegan wrote:
On 10/20/2012 02:16 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
[...]
3) In addition, we'll create a *new* tool also called qmake that will be
I wonder how FindQt4.cmake
to comment on the proposal.
Preferably also list goals and non goals. For example Sune's concern that I
linked to before seems to have become a non-goal. Please make those things
explicit.
What concern?
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int*.
And now it is:
../../include/QtNetwork/private/../../../src/network/socket/qnet_unix_p.h,
line 126: Error: Formal argument 3 of type unsigned* in call to accept(int,
sockaddr*, unsigned*) is being passed int*.
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socket/qhttpsocketengine.cpp
Both files #include the same header. So the error is still the same.
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_POSIX_C_SOURCE.
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qmake, it might be problematic to have it
built from Qt 5 sources. It would need to be statically built and split
off during packaging so that it had no dependencies on Qt 5. If you can
achieve that, go ahead and write it in Qt.
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tool, and e.g. on Windows to have that tool in the PATH and pointing to the
corresponding Qt for the environment set up shell scripts. In the SDK, the
tools/ directory might be a good place for it.
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is released along with QtCreator 2.6?
We are working on updating. The next SDK release will contain 5.0.
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I think there's the only one clean way to deal with it: continue to support
xlib qpa plugin in parallel with xcb.
There's another: static link the XCB libraries into the plugin.
You need to have the libxcb-*.a files with -fPIC, that's all.
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where to put its output. Since it's not
$$[QT_INSTALL_BINS], we need another path. But you're right that we don't need
the change to QLibraryInfo. If anyone ever needs to find and run those tools
(not counting their unit tests), QProcess is enough since it will search
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Don't expect that reporting the issue on the mailing list will trigger a fix.
We have no way of testing Solaris, so the fix must come from you in the form of
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On segunda-feira, 22 de outubro de 2012 21.21.17, André Pönitz wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 09:08:38AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
On segunda-feira, 22 de outubro de 2012 15.45.56, Oswald
Buddenhagen wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 04:16:14PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
Note
.
Indeed, it doesn't make much of a difference. So I'll just do the easiest,
which is to make the reading code simpler.
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can be very well self-contained, as it has always been.
i strongly prefer to have it outside qt itself.
If we add the -qt5 option to the traditional qmake, then it can be
considered optional.
I still prefer to develop it inside qtbase.
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I think all this becomes much too confusing.
If the option is required in one platform and does not cause anything but a
minor inconvenience on others, why not document it?
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Though I want to hear from distros what they think of the fact that Designer
is being put in the same bucket.
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If the option is required in one platform and does not cause anything but
a
minor inconvenience on others, why not document it?
So then will Qmake on Windows/Mac complain about the -qt5 argument? Or
simply drop it?
Drop it.
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. This case cannot exist for one
buildsystem that does know about Qt 5 anyway. Either that's two buildsystems
or it's one that knows about Qt 5.
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believed.
I really hope we choose Full Disclosure as our security model, as it
gives the _users_ the best opportunity to protect both themselves and
their end-users.
I do not and my reasons are above.
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working on X, but my guess is that they don't have a private API the way we
do.
So as long as it's a newer version at runtime, it should work.
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to be called from
wrong path when Qt is installed from the installer package.
There are a couple of people complaining about the same on Windows. Seen on
#qt, with 4.8.3.
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Please note that the actual hours being displayed are always correct, it's
just the TZ indication which is off.
It's got to be a glibc bug.
We only do:
tzset();
localtime();
Since we don't do anything special, I'm forced to conclude that the bug is in
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and I need help)
https://codereview.qt-project.org/38225 (creates libexec)
https://codereview.qt-project.org/38344 (the toolwrapper)
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/Source/JavaScriptCore/offlineasm/generate_offset
_extractor.rb llint\LowLevelInterpreter.asm LLIntDesiredOffsets.h
That's a Ruby script. You need to install Ruby too in order to build WebKit.
This time we will need RUBY. What next?
Erlang, Eiffel, Lua, or Tcl.
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email. His changes conflict with mine, so one of the two of us will need to
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* Default paths:
The defaults on a regular Unix or Windows installs are:
-bindir$prefix/bin [unchanged]
-libdir$prefix/lib [unchanged]
-libexecdir$prefix/lib/qt5/libexec [new
On terça-feira, 30 de outubro de 2012 06.47.06, Алексей Павлов wrote:
2012/10/30 Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
Erlang, Eiffel, Lua, or Tcl.
Oh no problem :) Tomorrow I build all of these ))
P.S. Python, Tcl/Tk and Ruby I already build with mingw)
I was kidding, you know
On segunda-feira, 29 de outubro de 2012 18.51.10, Thiago Macieira wrote:
However, if you do a -prefix /usr configuration, then the layout will be:
/usr/binUser applications only (qdbus,
linguist, etc.) /usr/liblibs
/usr/lib
the difference between flex and win_flex? Note that there's a flex
with msysgit, so if we used flex instead of win_flex, it would make setups
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, is there a problem with adding these?
There's no problem in adding those. It's quite easy, actually.
For lupdate, I changed the .pro file and, at the end where it read:
load(qt_tool)
I changed to:
load(qt_wrapped_tool)
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which ones need to be wrapped.
Finally, I am not listing the separation of paths for QML 1 and 2, since I
have not heard opposition to that fact. If I'm wrong, do speak up.
[*] consensus does not mean unanimity
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On terça-feira, 30 de outubro de 2012 23.52.08, André Pönitz wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:47:03PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
5) executable split between end-user applications and indirect tooling
The most controversial proposal so far is to split the binaries into two
groups: one
in qtbase and see if the version in PATH is new enough. We can still try
to use a copy of qt5.git/gnuwin32 as fallback if we can locate it.
What is the minimum required version?
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On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 09.46.18, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
On 10/31/2012 01:06 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
In any case, what's the problem with making a subjective decision? Clearly
the applications need to be split in two groups, so why shouldn't the Qt
Project make its
the
arguments on why we should not manage that on make install.
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On quarta-feira, 31 de outubro de 2012 12.23.27, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
3) library versioning (i.e., adding 5 to the library name)
-1
renaming is unnecessary:
- there is no problem at all at run-time
are simpler. They need to pass additional -
xxxdir options if they *choose* to according to their distro policies, not
because our defaults are incorrect.
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What is the minimum required version?
I'm not exactly sure, but I know that 2.5.4 is too old (generated code
won't compile) and 2.5.35 seems to work well.
That's the one that comes with msysgit. Can we make the buildsystem use flex
if flex is available instead?
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On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote:
Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting that multiarch
distributions should have *both*:
/usr/lib/qt5//bin/assistant AND
/usr
/kde4/plugins/:/home/thiago/kde/lib/plugins/:/usr/lib64/kde4/plugins
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Please note that we *can* have qmlviewer, provided it's the Qt Quick 1. It
works in either scenario of tooling: if it's in $PATH, it's via the
toolwrapper, in which case you run the Qt 5 version by adding the -qt5 option.
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On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 11.56.25, Lincoln Ramsay wrote:
On 01/11/12 09:41, Thiago Macieira wrote:
On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 09.23.37, Lincoln Ramsay wrote:
On 01/11/12 01:02, Thiago Macieira wrote:
Also, do I understand correctly that you're suggesting
for multiarch, requiring
features in their buildsystems that they don't have yet?
Do you quite realise how unreasonable this sounds?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:38:06PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
I disagree with leaving /usr/bin unmanaged at all. I want to hear the
arguments on why we should
hard since there's no mention in documentation which signals are limited
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/share/qt5 for installed builds only, ARCHDATADIR = DATADIR
PREFIX elsewhere.
I really, really, really want A, but I don't really mind either way for B.
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then 32-bit package to be installed on 32-bit systems. That's
a policy change.
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I disagree with leaving /usr/bin unmanaged at all. I want to hear the
arguments on why we should not manage that on make install
of the patches leads to options a and c
only. I need to split the patch that adds archdatadir so that option b is
opened up and we can apply the Qml2ImportsPath patch.
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Again. This is using clang 3.1 with QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std=c++11
Is that the real clang 3.1, or the 3.1 version of Apple clang? They are not
the same, they have different C++11 support status and known bugs.
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On quinta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2012 14.49.27, Stephen Chu wrote:
Again. This is using clang 3.1 with QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std=c++11
Is that the real clang 3.1, or the 3.1 version of Apple clang? They are not
the same
of arguments from the receiver instead of
the sender? We did that for regular functions and member functions.
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for this.
And connecting to functor works without C++11 (now, it is probably ok to
say that connecting to functor with less arguments than the signal is only
working with C++11)
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But since Jason has left (AFAIK?), the history repeat again
There have been a series of commits doing it in the other direction.
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it was made in spite of there being open tasks in the meta bug.
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to be done for the initial Qt 5 release.
It won't happen for Qt 5. It's way too late for that.
But tell me: what do you want to see in this common base class? What methods
from QAbstractSocket?
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, it will tell you why.
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QListQIODevice * in your
case above? You said disconnect, read, write, all of which you can do with
QIODevice (close() is virtual, the signals are in QIODevice).
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platforms as Tier 1, provided they meet the other quality criteria,
even if they aren't in the CI.
Specifically, I'm thinking of QNX and, in turn, wondering if the team behind it
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see how the connectTo* methods could be shared, and I don't
think it would be a good idea to try to do so.
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(QFile, QBuffer) and the sequential one (all the rest).
I'd like to see non blocking (or asynchronous) IO for files as well.
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of use.
My recommendation is that you do not allow relative URLs. Require them to be
absolute, in which case you'll need the file:/// prefix.
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convenience for something you can already do by another method.
However, Qt 4.8 cannot receive new features nor new symbols. If there were a
Qt 4.9, we could add the change there.
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The 5 has been added to all Unix, except for Mac framework builds. On Windows,
the 5 has moved positions.
The patch has just passed through CI as
d725239c3e09c2b740a093265f6a9675fd2f8524
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[branch master]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/master
[branch test]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/master
*If anyone else has any idea, please help me with this.*
There's nothing wrong with your setup.
You can push to origin, since that's the Gerrit repository.
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one shot tasks, we're missing a
good API to replace QtConcurrent for now.
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On sábado, 17 de novembro de 2012 05.14.39, Lorn Potter wrote:
Hi,
So how is one supposed to build submodules that got removed by change
41c3f2cb5f633f0e540482ca01b2c2caa2475e57 ?
certainly make module-qtsensors is now broken.
cd qtsensors make
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wrote:
On sábado, 17 de novembro de 2012 05.14.39, Lorn Potter wrote:
Hi,
So how is one supposed to build submodules that got removed by change
anymore.
Config-tests are run by qmake, so I don't see a problem.
The commands above *must* work. If they don't, we just need to fix them.
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anyone is interested.
We can't wait for C++1y, but we should instead try and influence it by
designing something nice.
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On domingo, 18 de novembro de 2012 12.26.25, Sze Howe Koh wrote:
On 16 November 2012 07:39, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
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I'd like to see someone give TBB a Qt-ish API wrapper.
How would the licensing work if, say, a Qt Commercial customer uses
Qt-wrapped TBB, encounters
reuse the
names QFuture and similar for further purposes, including whatever
replacements to QtConcurrent we come up with.
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an example of a thread pool used differently: the DNS resolver
code in QtNetwork. It uses 5 threads, regardless of how many CPU cores you
have. It involves a blocking call. And as such, it must not use the global
thread pool because it would prevent other tasks from running.
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