Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet DOS defense strategy???

2001-06-08 Thread Tavin Cole
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:46:22PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:38:33PM -0400, Tavin Cole wrote: > <> > > > Once it is passed upstream the node will no longer be queried (at least from that > > > direction) right? So if you delete a datum after so many requests, it is

[freenet-devl] FindJava hanging when no java found

2001-06-08 Thread Dave Hooper
... Well, since no-one else has, I went in and fixed this bug in FindJava.exe Now we can release a version of the installer that DOESN'T confuse people without Java. (For those not aware of the current situation, if a user doesn't have a Java runtime environment already installed, the Freenet Inst

[freenet-devl] FindJava hanging when no java found

2001-06-08 Thread Dave Hooper
Well, since no-one else did, I went in and fixed this bug in FindJava.exe Now we can release a version of the installer that DOESN'T confuse people without Java. (For those not aware of the current situation, if a user doesn't have a Java runtime environment already installed, the Freenet Installe

[freenet-devl] nodes.config

2001-06-08 Thread Timm Murray
Even so, it shouldn't be done. The Right Way(tm) to do it is to make Freenet itself a little more mallible to the needs of unstable nodes (the ARKs in 0.4 are a step twards this). Forcing your node to use a only a few other nodes is a really bad idea. -Original Message- From: Emil Mikuli

Re: [freenet-devl] nodes.config

2001-06-08 Thread Emil Mikulic
> Even so, it shouldn't be done. The Right Way(tm) to do it is to make > Freenet itself a little more mallible to the needs of unstable nodes (the > ARKs in 0.4 are a step twards this). Point noted. > Forcing your node to use a only a few > other nodes is a really bad idea. It's forcing itse

Re: [freenet-devl] nodes.config

2001-06-08 Thread Timm Murray
Even so, it shouldn't be done. The Right Way(tm) to do it is to make Freenet itself a little more mallible to the needs of unstable nodes (the ARKs in 0.4 are a step twards this). Forcing your node to use a only a few other nodes is a really bad idea. -Original Message- From: Emil Mikul

[freenet-devl] Secret Sharing

2001-06-08 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
OK, this is my first post of freenet-devl, and possibly my last, but it's an idea that just occurred to me and might be worth considering. Um, OK, first motivation, then. The problem I'm looking at is the fact that freenet's redundancy eats space. To store 1TB of stuff on freenet, at say 6x redu

[freenet-devl] Freenet DOS defense strategy???

2001-06-08 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:38:33PM -0400, Tavin Cole wrote: <> > > Once it is passed upstream the node will no longer be queried (at least > > from that > > direction) right? So if you delete a datum after so many requests, it is > > trivial for a > > specific node to force that data out of the

[freenet-devl] Secret Sharing

2001-06-08 Thread Scott G. Miller
you think? > > ~mark > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl -- loggers melt cry riot -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20010608/ca63c30d/attachment.pgp>

Re: [freenet-devl] Secret Sharing

2001-06-08 Thread Scott G. Miller
Not a bad idea. I'm not sure that the way you notify of diminished shares existing is necessarily a good one, but the idea of dropping large files in this way isn't bad. Also, it may not be as effective when we have file splitting. But assuming we did something like this, it might be a better i

[freenet-devl] Freenet DOS defense strategy???

2001-06-08 Thread Frank Joppe
Wouldn't a scattering scheme do the job? If a malicious node has chosen a target, then move the target. Maybe the following scheme for scattering would work (condition -> something is triggered saying "hey, loadsa requests"): *duplicate target to two new nodes *(perhaps) delete target in

[freenet-devl] nodes.config

2001-06-08 Thread Emil Mikulic
> >Would it be a good idea to be able to dynamically make the local > >node connect to specified outside nodes? > > > >nodes.config just isn't doing it for me. > > No. The way Freenet works, it is SUPPOSED to find out nodes that you would > otherwise have no clue existed. Makeing this process m

[freenet-devl] Secret Sharing

2001-06-08 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
OK, this is my first post of freenet-devl, and possibly my last, but it's an idea that just occurred to me and might be worth considering. Um, OK, first motivation, then. The problem I'm looking at is the fact that freenet's redundancy eats space. To store 1TB of stuff on freenet, at say 6x red

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet DOS defense strategy???

2001-06-08 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:38:33PM -0400, Tavin Cole wrote: <> > > Once it is passed upstream the node will no longer be queried (at least from that > > direction) right? So if you delete a datum after so many requests, it is trivial >for a > > specific node to force that data out of the data st

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet DOS defense strategy???

2001-06-08 Thread Frank Joppe
Wouldn't a scattering scheme do the job? If a malicious node has chosen a target, then move the target. Maybe the following scheme for scattering would work (condition -> something is triggered saying "hey, loadsa requests"): *duplicate target to two new nodes *(perhaps) delete target in

[freenet-devl] First freenet map

2001-06-08 Thread Peter Todd
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[freenet-devl] First freenet map

2001-06-08 Thread Peter Todd
Here's a crude little map of 20 Freenet nodes that I just did up using the GraphViz Perl module. All inserts were done with a htl of 5 The average request htl is shown on the edges between nodes. The map needs more nodes in it obviously, only a few had any connections at all to other nodes and whe