[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 |> I agree here. But giving an option to use existing account (perhaps |> verifying its permissions, etc) is still a good idea. Also, asking to |> remove existing accounts could be a good idea. | | That's not gonna happen... Removing things during the

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Victor Denisov [2008-03-18 14:59:50]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > |> I think that installer should at least ask if a dedicated user should be > |> created, and an option to use an existing account. I have... what... 4 > |> freenet users now on my system (yeah, I've be

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 |> I think that installer should at least ask if a dedicated user should be |> created, and an option to use an existing account. I have... what... 4 |> freenet users now on my system (yeah, I've been lazy to properly |> uninstall freenet a couple of t

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 |> I agree here. But giving an option to use existing account (perhaps |> verifying its permissions, etc) is still a good idea. Also, asking to |> remove existing accounts could be a good idea. | | That's not gonna happen... Removing things during the

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Victor Denisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 14:59:50]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > |> I think that installer should at least ask if a dedicated user should be > |> created, and an option to use an existing account. I have... what... 4 > |> freenet users now on my sy

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 |> I think that installer should at least ask if a dedicated user should be |> created, and an option to use an existing account. I have... what... 4 |> freenet users now on my system (yeah, I've been lazy to properly |> uninstall freenet a couple of t

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Victor Denisov [2008-03-17 22:59:50]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > | If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we > | should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time > | and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows.

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke [2008-03-17 14:31:19]: > If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we > should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time > and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. > > Ian. That was my original view too but toad managed to co

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-03-17 16:45:43]: > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? > Not hard... but as explained on IRC it's not an option because the user is unlikely to have the SeServiceLogonRight ... and we don't want to give him for obvious security reasons. >

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Robert Hailey [2008-03-17 15:11:38]: > > On Mar 17, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? > > Or maybe there is a flag to make a user not login-able? > -- > Robert Hailey Why would you want the freenet user to be

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we | should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time | and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. I think that installer should at least ask if a dedic

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Florent Daignière
* Victor Denisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-17 22:59:50]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > | If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we > | should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time > | and energy reinventing how to install so

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-17 14:31:19]: > If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we > should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time > and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. > > Ian. That was my original view too but

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-17 16:45:43]: > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? > Not hard... but as explained on IRC it's not an option because the user is unlikely to have the SeServiceLogonRight ... and we don't want to give him for obvious s

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Florent Daignière
* Robert Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-17 15:11:38]: > > On Mar 17, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? > > Or maybe there is a flag to make a user not login-able? > -- > Robert Hailey Why would you want the

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? - toad at zceUWxlSaHLmvEMnbr4RHnVfehA - 2008.03.15 - 23:11:45GMT - Clearly running as SYSTEM is bad. However every other service runs as SYSTEM, if we just install a service to run Freenet, it will run as SYSTEM. We

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Robert Hailey
On Mar 17, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? Or maybe there is a flag to make a user not login-able? -- Robert Hailey > > > - toad at zceUWxlSaHLmvEMnbr4RHnVfehA - 2008.03.15 - > 23:11:45GMT - > > Clear

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. Ian. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > How hard would it be to run Freenet as

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Robert Hailey
On Mar 17, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? Or maybe there is a flag to make a user not login-able? -- Robert Hailey > > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2008.03.15 - > 23:11:45GMT - > > Clearly running as SYST

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we | should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time | and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. I think that installer should at least ask if a dedic

Re: [freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
If it is standard practice for services to run as SYSTEM then we should probably do that too. We don't need to be spending our time and energy reinventing how to install software on Windows. Ian. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How hard would it be

[freenet-dev] Adding a user for Freenet breaks startup-without-login

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
How hard would it be to run Freenet as the user that installed it? - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2008.03.15 - 23:11:45GMT - Clearly running as SYSTEM is bad. However every other service runs as SYSTEM, if we just install a service to run Freenet, it will run as SYSTEM. We decided this is ba