Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-03 Thread Jason Phillips
rovisions of the disclaimer. From: Lars Helge Ă˜verland [mailto:larshe...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 November 2014 06:22 PM To: Bob Jolliffe Cc: Calle Hedberg; DHIS 2 Users list; Jason Phillips; dhis2-devs Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website Hi, the terms of use p

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Lars Helge Ă˜verland
Hi, the terms of use page was intended solely for the web site content on dhis2.org and not the DHIS 2 software. I can see it being confusing and I think its a good idea to put a clarification on top of that page like you say. I have taken out the use of "software" and put in a statement saying "

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Thanks Calle for the lesson :-) Always happy to provide some amusement. I don't suggest there is any need to change from LGPL to BSD-like licence. Both do the job in this case, albeit quite a bit differently. There is of course no question that you need to claim copyright before you can offer li

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Jason Pickering
The major difference between the BSD and LGPL (which is not what the terms we are discussing here) is the BSD license is somewhat more permissive. It basically states here is the source code, do what you want with it, but we make no warranties whatsoever. If people want to take the DHIS2 source cod

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Calle Hedberg
Hi and yes - while it does not really make sense to change our current LGPL license since DHIS 1.x is being phased out in any case, I think HISP-SA should/will largely use the same licenses as HISP-UiO for the future. Conceptually, there's no significant difference from what I can see. Regards Ca

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Calle Hedberg
Bob/Than, A bit amusing that you do find stuff like that. probably just reflect that different people think differently, and that we have never had a lawyer-type going through all of it and streamline. Conceptually, my understanding has always been that all our software and materials are free for

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Calle Thanks for clarification. But I think maybe you still could fix this on the terms of use page on the website, which doesn't indicate anything about LGPL at all. It seems to me that you could change those terms to apply to the non-software materials on the website, if that is really your

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-02 Thread Ngoc Thanh Nguyen
Thanks Bob and Calle for the great info and interpretation. @Calle you know so well about Foss though you were many years with MS Thanh On Nov 2, 2014 4:08 AM, "Calle Hedberg" wrote: > Hi, > > We've always used the so called "Lesser GPL" license for 1.x version of > the DHIS - this also allows a

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-01 Thread Calle Hedberg
Hi, We've always used the so called "Lesser GPL" license for 1.x version of the DHIS - this also allows any type of derivate software (including commercial ones) AS LONG AS THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE REMAIN FOSS AND THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE IS PACKAGED WITH THE LICENSE. So the reference to "cannot be use

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Agree this is a bit confusing. I am assuming you read this here: http://hisp.org/html/policies.htm#terms This is actually the HISP South Africa web site and it looks like these are conditions which they are applying to the dhis 1.4 software. Given that they now also support v2 they should really

[Dhis2-devs] Confusing Use license on dhis2 website

2014-11-01 Thread Ngoc Thanh Nguyen
Hi all DHIS2 is licensed as BSD which means that one can customize, redistribute, and use it for any purposes (commercial or non-commercial) given that the BSD copyright text are retained. However, in HISP website it says that materials (include software) on the website can not be used for commer