Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:36 PM Andrey Repin via dia-list wrote: > Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > > > No reason at all. Just thought that since the effort is relatively big to > > modernize DIA to GTK 3 it would be worthwhile to at least discuss it. > > Moreover, I think a future Web-based interfac

Re: What's wrong with Dia the way it is?

2018-12-05 Thread Andrey Repin via dia-list
Greetings, Steve Litt! > What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable > into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. "It works" is the most you can say about it. When you start to actually USE it, you immediately discover different small annoyances, the more - the deeper you dive.

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Andrey Repin via dia-list
Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > No reason at all. Just thought that since the effort is relatively big to > modernize DIA to GTK 3 it would be worthwhile to at least discuss it. > Moreover, I think a future Web-based interface to DIA (even if not the > primary/native one) will be important for the l

Re: What's wrong with Dia the way it is?

2018-12-05 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 5 décembre 2018 18:32:47 GMT+01:00, Steve Litt a écrit : >What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable >into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. Good point, but that also means to repeatidly rewrites by hand the diagram shapes and so on. An UNIX way would be to implem

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 14:31 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:04 PM Zander Brown wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > What I was thinking is that we could channel some funds to a > > > University and have them work on it. My native count

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:04 PM Zander Brown wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > What I was thinking is that we could channel some funds to a University > and have them work on it. My native country (Venezuela) is in pretty bad > shape but top-notch Universit

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:59 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM Zander Brown > wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > [...] > > > > You seem to know exactly what needs to be done to get through the > > > GTK 2 bump, and it awesome th

Re: What's wrong with Dia the way it is?

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:32 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable > into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. > > Sure, I have a few qualms with the way Dia works, mainly having to do > with the relationship between text and shapes,

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM Zander Brown wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > [...] > You seem to know exactly what needs to be done to get through the GTK 2 > bump, and it awesome that at least someone does and understands the urgency > to AT LEAST bum

Re: What's wrong with Dia the way it is?

2018-12-05 Thread rhkramer--- via dia-list
+1 (from an occasional user) On Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:32:47 PM Steve Litt wrote: > What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable > into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. > > Sure, I have a few qualms with the way Dia works, mainly having to do > with the relationship

Re: Hello Everyone

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:16 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:24:58 + > Alexander Brown wrote: > > > Whilst I am a member of the GNOME Foundation and would like to see > > Dia > > modernised I recognise the fact Dia is very much a cross platform > > application and therefore ha

What's wrong with Dia the way it is?

2018-12-05 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. Sure, I have a few qualms with the way Dia works, mainly having to do with the relationship between text and shapes, but perhaps some good workaround documentation would settle that.

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:34 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:50 AM Zander Brown wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > The Gtk3 -> 4 transition should be much smoother, just a bit > > monotonous > > > > > I have heard of people sugges

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Eduard Nicodei via dia-list
I don't think we need to argue. Alejandro's comment however raises an important issue: "what are Dia's competitors"? I think actually Dia can live alongside online diagram editors such as draw.io and formats such as XML/SVG have nothing to do with it. The reason why I have used dia in the past i

Failure

2018-12-05 Thread Gerardo Carbia via dia-list
Hello I am trying to save a file in the program day and when I give it to save or save as the following message appears: \FP ASIR\XBD Xestión de bases de datos\Tarea02\__dia0808SZ»: Bad file descriptor neither does it let me export the file to any format!! I hope you can help me solve the proble

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 17:38 +, Eduard Nicodei wrote: > Tomas Harding also suggested getting in touch with the authors > directly, the only email I could find was Steffen Macke's (CC'ed) or > even with the Gnome Bugmaster (also CC'ed). The technical administrators of bugzilla.gnome.org don

Re: Hello Everyone

2018-12-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:24:58 + Alexander Brown wrote: > Whilst I am a member of the GNOME Foundation and would like to see Dia > modernised I recognise the fact Dia is very much a cross platform > application and therefore has a sort of 'special status' within the > GNOME Project and have no i

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:40 AM Andrey Repin via dia-list wrote: > Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > > > [...] > In the contrast, I can use Dia on my netbook with just 2 GB RAM > comfortable. > And not just starting and closing. The diagram I'm working with contains > 1336 > objects. > All it takes

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:50 AM Zander Brown wrote: > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > > The Gtk3 -> 4 transition should be much smoother, just a bit monotonous > > I have heard of people suggesting to use JSX for GTK 4, so not sure why > the "shit" comment about R

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Andrey Repin via dia-list
Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > Just for reference: > https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2016/08/17/a-quick-look-at-using-jsx-in-gnome/ > So why not think in this direction or node-gtk or something along these > lines and get some fresh blood in here. > Not so "shit" now, eh? I was forced to sw

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 00:24 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:14 AM Alejandro Imass > wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM timothy b via dia-list < > > dia-list@gnome.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question isn’t so much as to what uti

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 04:56 +, timothy b via dia-list wrote: > > > The question isn’t so much as to what utilities that Día uses, nor > what platform is managing the code. > > > > > > > The discussion should be about is there anyone that wants to maintain > Dia for Windows, I would lik

Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 22:20 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:12 PM Thomas HARDING < > t...@thomas-harding.name> wrote: > > Hi, all ! > > > > > > > > So, > > > > > > > > Le 04/12/2018 à 11:21, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list a écrit : > > > So, I think that's a good start

Re: Hello Everyone

2018-12-05 Thread Zander Brown
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 00:52 +0100, Thomas HARDING wrote: > Hi! > Le 04/12/2018 à 23:24, Alexander Brown a écrit : > > Hello! > > > > I've been interested in seeing Dia move forward for sometime now > > and > > I'm glad others are as well > > > > I don't want to step on anyone's toes but as the cu