Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-04-01 Thread Taran Rampersad
Alfred Bork wrote: >I agree, Raymond. The potential dangers of widespread open source software >(including operating systems) are great. > > > >Alfred Bork > > I'd like to see what material there is that supports this statement. There is much evidence that indicates otherwise. Perhaps you could

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-31 Thread Ross Gardler
work discussion group' Subject: RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer I actually like the idea of a simple low cost computer to "assist" with bridging the digital divide, with an emphasis on ASSIST. But I do have a problem with the idea of Open Source operating system; maybe someone can clarify this

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-31 Thread Ed Ward
> As I stated yesterday, we already KNOW how akin to swiss cheese Windows > is. How could any OS provide less security? I don't think any of us wants to promote ANY approach to security with the rallying cry of "better than Microsoft." Fortunately, we don't need to. I think there is a general

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-31 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Jesse, I will add still more "anecdotal evidence" to this discussion: Apache is the most used webserver in the world. It is a Free and Open Source package, and sits at the gateway to most server systems. If Free and Open Source is by its very nature hackable, why haven't more disasters occurred

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-31 Thread Jesse N. Sinaiko
Alfred wrote: "I agree, Raymond. The potential dangers of widespread open source software (including operating systems) are great." Raymond wrote: "If Microsoft has such a problem with people hacking into the loopholes of their closed source code, what type of malicious viruses will we begin seein

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-31 Thread Alfred Bork
]; 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group' Subject: RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer I actually like the idea of a simple low cost computer to "assist" with bridging the digital divide, with an emphasis on ASSIST. But I do have a problem with the idea of Open Source operating syste

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > If Microsoft has such a problem with people hacking into the loopholes of > their closed source code, what type of malicious viruses will we begin seeing > if an Open Source Operating system such as Linux becomes the dominant OS? [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Open source i

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Tim Gemelli
... Tim Gemelli www.eNonProfits.org - Original Message - From: "Raymond -Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'The Digital Divide Network discussion group'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: RE: FW:

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Anu Mundkur
: +1 (315) 443 4905 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Sinaiko Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:22 AM To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group' Subject: RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer Raymond wrote: "If Microsoft h

Re: How *not* to close the digital divide (was Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer)

2005-03-30 Thread Adite Chatterjee
Hello. I am a researcher and journalist in India and have been following the discussions with great interest. As Judith pointed out, research and documentation of uses of the Simputer would be critical. Moreover, these findings should be made available to as many people as possible - through the Ne

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Jesse Sinaiko
Raymond wrote: "If Microsoft has such a problem with people hacking into the loopholes of their closed source code, what type of malicious viruses will we begin seeing if an Open Source Operating system such as Linux becomes the dominant OS?" I think we will see quick, decisive responses to hacks

Fw: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
Friends: Here is a message (on simputers) I received from Ms Laina Raveendran Greene, an ICT4D consultant working out of California and Singapore. In fact Laina must have met Dr Swami Manohar, one of the founders of the simputer project, as both of them were there at the PANASIA review meeting o

RE: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-30 Thread Raymond -Info
I actually like the idea of a simple low cost computer to "assist" with bridging the digital divide, with an emphasis on ASSIST. But I do have a problem with the idea of Open Source operating system; maybe someone can clarify this for me. If Microsoft has such a problem with people hacking into t

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Sir, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > There are half a dozen projects for producing cheap computers, including ones > at MIT and Carnegie Mellon, most more interesting than the simputer. But none > of them is based on any analysis of educational needs. I propose that we > should delay such design until w

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread Cindy Lemcke-Hoong
Hello All, This is the link Taran sent on Simputer http://amidasimputer.com/khatha/ If we look at the needs of the 'pressumed' (I am guessing) target audience in India, this piece of equipment is design with them in mind. At least some of the target audience. Furthermore it is both landlin

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread Sandra Andrews
Educational technologists do hope that there is research on educational needs before we introduce new technologies into education, but that is because we don't want to be wasting time on flashy new items that may not have much of a purpose yet. But in my digital divide work I sense an ongoing inter

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 3/29/05 3:31:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > And I also personally think it would be best if there were always an > educational technologist involved, someone who could ensure, not that > the research is done before development, but rather that the > development takes ed

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread Sandra Andrews
Jon, We appreciate the link very much, and most of us would love to try out a Simputer in the field, believe me. It is actually clear from its features that a great deal of thought and prototyping took place, and many of us remember its gradual evolution. We on the list just like to get into lar

Re: How *not* to close the digital divide (was Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer)

2005-03-29 Thread judith green
Greetings, I have been part of this discussion group for a long time but have not written to the group previously. As an educator and researcher (ethnographer) who is exploring ways that new technologies are taken up and used by students and teachers as resources in and out of school contexts,

Re: How *not* to close the digital divide (was Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer)

2005-03-29 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 3/29/05 11:33:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Even if we have lived in the developing world all our lives we would not > know the answers for the developing world as a whole. The developing > world is a very large place, with very different problems in each area. > Even wit

How *not* to close the digital divide (was Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer)

2005-03-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Alfred Bork wrote: There are half a dozen projects for producing cheap computers, including ones at MIT and Carnegie Mellon, most more interesting than the simputer. But none of them is based on any analysis of educational needs. I propose that we should delay such design until we have a sizable bo

Re: FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread BBracey
One other interesting factor in the use of the Simputer, is the access to a source, to use the computer. There are some unusual ones and often that discussion is lacking. There have been various ways posted of using alternate energy sources. This comes from actually working in places where I ha

FW: [DDN] Simputer

2005-03-29 Thread Alfred Bork
There are half a dozen projects for producing cheap computers, including ones at MIT and Carnegie Mellon, most more interesting than the simputer. But none of them is based on any analysis of educational needs. I propose that we should delay such design until we have a sizable body of well evalua