Hi Robert,
On Sun, 30 May 2010 19:38:10 +0900, Robert
wrote:
Hi, are there are any projectes / snippets / prototypes where someone
tried to serializa D run-time data-structures (like an associative
array) into a file?
I may not be right about your question, but I am writing msgpack4d
Jonathan M Davis:
>Uncommon? Sure, if you don't need the ability to arbitrarily add and remove
>elements from a container, then a vector type is definitely better than a
>linked list. However, there are _plenty_ of cases out there where the ability
>to arbitrarily add and remove elements from a
Andrei:
>Thanks for your notes.<
My pleasure, if you like them I will try to do this thing some more times.
There are probably tens or hundreds of small details that can be improved in
Phobos. Some of such changes can improve the usage patterns. In past I have put
some of them in Bugzilla.
One
On 2010-05-31 11:09:54 +0200, "Masahiro Nakagawa" said:
I may not be right about your question, but I am writing msgpack4d.
http://www.bitbucket.org/repeatedly/msgpack4d
This library will be available in Phobos(see d.announce).
Now, I fix bugs and improve some features.
Hi, does it support
If I could specify which memory allocator to use when creating a class,
The class could be created in a MMF (which is mapped to main memory and
hence there should be no difference in speed) and all references would
go to the MMF as well.
Isn't http://digitalmars.com/d/2.0/class.html#Class
I'm not sure if bearophile or some other language advocate posted this
already, but:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c3p8e/
if_you_have_to_learn_just_one_programming_language/
"Here are my criteria for selecting (a non domain specific) language to
learn."
"It should provide high l
I suppose you are simply trolling...
anyway, I think that D is an absolutely amazing language,
but please, if you are able to write a language that is faster than
D , more elegant, ALONE!! and you are willing to donate it to us
like Mr. Bright has done... please show us why you think to be so
muc
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
D is very close to C. The productivity is much lower than with other
modern scripting or hybrid-functional languages.
I disagree, unless you need a specific library which D does not yet have.
DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
Thanks for another trolling post of yours. :rolleyes: Weren't you supposed
to stop posting?
On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:43:36 -0500, retard wrote:
I'm not sure if bearophile or some other language advocate posted this
already, but:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c3p8e/
if_you_have_
> I'd like it to also return the popped item, a ElementType!Range, is this
> possible?
> Popping one item out is one of the most common operations I have to perform
> on an heap.
I have read some pages, trying to understand why your pop doesn't return the
item.
In a page I have read:
>Pop retu
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:43:36 +, retard wrote:
> I'm not sure if bearophile or some other language advocate posted this
> already, but:
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c3p8e/
> if_you_have_to_learn_just_one_programming_language/
>
> "Here are my criteria for selecting (a non d
Hello retard,
I'm not sure if bearophile or some other language advocate posted this
already, but:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c3p8e/
if_you_have_to_learn_just_one_programming_language/
"Here are my criteria for selecting (a non domain specific) language
to learn."
"It should
Hello Lars,
As far as helping D goes,
you might as well have said "I don't like cheese".
And that phrase has even less content than most people first think because
it fails to distinguish between disliking cheese and just not caring.
I apologize for dragging out my soapbox but you just used
retard Wrote:
> snip
Even though he said all of that, he wouldn't be here and post so often if he
didn't think D was a good language.
Mon, 31 May 2010 16:14:31 +, Alessandro Ogheri wrote:
> I suppose you are simply trolling...
>
> anyway, I think that D is an absolutely amazing language,
I was simply comparing the current status of D with the other languages
mentioned in the original blog post and also propagated the link
Mon, 31 May 2010 13:57:34 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> retard Wrote:
>
>> snip
>
> Even though he said all of that, he wouldn't be here and post so often
> if he didn't think D was a good language.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
And my "opinions" weren't completely wrong. You can e
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
> On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
>> DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
>
> For very special values of much, I suppose.
Polymorphic method calls, auto-vectorization, link-time optimization,
floating point performan
This reminds me of elementary school and those discussions "which
car/plane/tank is best". Pretty futile subject to begin with, as you cant
compare fruits and vegetables. And no matter what somebody say there will
always be some kid claiming opposite just for the sake of disagreeing.
I guess t
Mon, 31 May 2010 14:19:22 -0400, Bane wrote:
> This reminds me of elementary school and those discussions "which
> car/plane/tank is best". Pretty futile subject to begin with, as you
> cant compare fruits and vegetables. And no matter what somebody say
> there will always be some kid claiming opp
On 05/31/2010 08:17 PM, retard wrote:
But way better than in java, C, C++ or almost any other language.
So basically if I'm offering you $10 and $10, you're taking $10
because it's more than $1 or $2 or any value between $3 and $4. Great
logic.
D has a delegate syntax which fits with the
On 5/31/10, retard wrote:
> For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to Scala
> or Haskell.
Eh, one man's "terse" is another man's "unreadable".
I just want to know if (and when) these features will be removed or not.
Especially typedef, which I found quite useful lately.
C-style struct initialization and complex types have also been discussed
but are still in.
Nobody got an answer?
Trass3r:
> Nobody got an answer?
My opinion:
- complex types will be removed. And as far as I know complex number literals
too will be removed from D (this is less nice).
- I am not sure regarding C-style struct initializations. They are useful to
save some typing if you have to for example to p
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 15:48, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
>
>> Will the definition of a forward range change to incorporate save, or do
>> you intend to distinguish ranges that can do
>>
>> R r2 = r1;
>> and those that have:
>> auto r2 = r1.save;
>> ?
>> Un
> IMHO the original blog post was more trolling than my false opinions. I
> liked your critical way of thinking so much that I publicly admit that my
> post was a bit provocative.
Thank you for a compliment.
> When you see this kind of articles, you should really ponder whether it
> makes sens
Simen & Marianne too:
>
> There are other concerns than simply what works. First of all is
> readability - having containers called queue and stack makes code easier
> to understand, even if this is done with a simple alias.
> There might also be a concern about efficiency, as there is a differenc
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 00:47, Ellery Newcomer
wrote:
> On 05/30/2010 04:53 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
>
>> There are some simple containers I'd like to see in std.containers:
>>
>> - a priority queue
>>
>
> (incf vote)
>
> It seems like I'm always writing priority queue implementations whose
> el
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:56, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
> On 05/30/2010 04:53 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
>
>> There are some simple containers I'd like to see in std.containers:
>>
>> - a priority queue
>> - a heap
>>
>
> What's the difference between the two?
>
Hello retard,
Mon, 31 May 2010 16:14:31 +, Alessandro Ogheri wrote:
I suppose you are simply trolling...
anyway, I think that D is an absolutely amazing language,
I was simply comparing the current status of D with the other
languages mentioned in the original blog post and also propaga
Philippe Sigaud:
> > Yeah, particularly if having both stack and queue just costs one alias. I
> mean, it's a standard library. I know I can use built-in arrays (for
> example) as stacks and queues, but sometimes I just want to have a stack.
And in some situations it's better to have stacks and qu
Hello retard,
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to
Scala or Haskell.
But way better than in java, C, C++ or almost any other language.
So basically if I'm offering you $1
Hello retard,
Mon, 31 May 2010 13:57:34 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
retard Wrote:
snip
Even though he said all of that, he wouldn't be here and post so
often if he didn't think D was a good language.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
And my "opinions" weren't completely wrong. Y
May be my question will be a bit naive, but what is about
boost::multi_index approach? I find it brilliant for dividing container
implementation from various container interfaces - things you guys are
arguing here about a bit.
On 05/31/2010 12:53 AM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
There are some simp
On 05/31/2010 02:14 PM, bearophile wrote:
Trass3r:
Nobody got an answer?
My opinion:
- complex types will be removed. And as far as I know complex number literals
too will be removed from D (this is less nice).
- I am not sure regarding C-style struct initializations. They are useful to
save
On 05/31/2010 02:20 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 15:48, Andrei Alexandrescu
mailto:seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org>>
wrote:
OK. So it's really sameFront and not equalFront or somesuch.
Yah. A previous attempt at naming was sameHead but I don't want to
add to
On 05/31/2010 02:36 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Simen & Marianne too:
There are other concerns than simply what works. First of all is
readability - having containers called queue and stack makes code easier
to understand, even if this is done with a simple alias.
There might al
retard wrote:
"Succinct: The language should not be verbose. This is very important.
Brevity is one reason why Python and Ruby are popular."
For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to Scala
or Haskell.
Have you checked out APL? Here's the game of life in APL:
http://
Andrei Alexandrescu:
> typedef is gone.
*mewls* I have shown here some examples of typedef usage, and I'll keep posting
few more in future. I'd like to pull it back from the grave and keep it :-)
Bye,
bearophile
Doesn't
struct T { R _payload; }
accomplish the same thing as
typedef R T;
in the majority of useful cases?
I use typedef void* Some_C_Type; a lot, and rather like it for a
handful of other things, but I'm pretty sure the struct accomplishes
the same thing in those cases. As a template in the
On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
typedef is gone.
*mewls* I have shown here some examples of typedef usage, and I'll keep posting
few more in future. I'd like to pull it back from the grave and keep it :-)
It's wasted time. typedef is gone.
Andrei
On 05/31/2010 04:11 PM, Adam Ruppe wrote:
Doesn't
struct T { R _payload; }
accomplish the same thing as
typedef R T;
in the majority of useful cases?
Exactly. And with alias this and other mechanisms, you can define
several well-defined typedef incarnations that achieve what you want to
e
On 1-6-2010 5:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophile wrote:
>> Andrei Alexandrescu:
>>> typedef is gone.
>>
>> *mewls* I have shown here some examples of typedef usage, and I'll
>> keep posting few more in future. I'd like to pull it back from the
>> grave and keep it :
On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
typedef is gone.
*mewls* I have shown here some examples of typedef usage, and I'll keep posting
few more in future. I'd like to pull it back from the grave and keep it :-)
Bye,
bearophile
user specified T.init?
On 1-6-2010 6:25, Ellery Newcomer wrote:
> user specified T.init?
I love(d) that feature!
retard wrote:
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
For very special values of much, I suppose.
Polymorphic method calls, auto-vectorization, link-time optimization,
floating point
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article
> retard wrote:
> > Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
> >>> DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
> >> For very special values of much, I suppose.
Mon, 31 May 2010 15:41:00 -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
> retard wrote:
>> Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
>>> For very special values of much, I suppose.
>>
>> Polymorph
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:05:50 +0800, Lionello Lunesu
wrote:
>
> On 1-6-2010 5:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophile wrote:
> >> Andrei Alexandrescu:
> >>> typedef is gone.
> >>
> >> *mewls* I have shown here some examples of typedef usage, and I'll
> >> keep postin
On 5/30/2010 6:38 AM, Robert wrote:
Hi, are there are any projectes / snippets / prototypes where someone
tried to serializa D run-time data-structures (like an associative
array) into a file?
--
Robert M. Münch
http://www.robertmuench.de
After having difficulty getting ddbg to work, I decide
Hi
This is the monthly status for the unofficial d wish list:
http://all-technology.com/eigenpolls/dwishlist/
I am closing this wish list.
New requests should be posted to bugzilla on http://d.puremagic.com/issues/
It would be a great help,
if you could help move some of the wish list items
Adam Ruppe wrote:
> On 5/31/10, retard wrote:
>> For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to Scala
>> or Haskell.
>
> Eh, one man's "terse" is another man's "unreadable".
True, though I think that Haskell's lambda syntax is quite nice (I haven't
used Scala, so I can't co
Why is this still being posted here? Many of the items are already in D,
others will never be, and nobody seems to care about the list anymore at
all. Currently, this is just spam.
--
Simen
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Yah, there's no argument that infinite ranges must be allowed by a n-way
cross-product. It reminds one of Cantor's diagonalization, just in
several dimensions. Shouldn't be very difficult, but it only works if
all ranges except one are forward ranges (one can be
retard wrote:
I thought the DMD's approach required sources for each module and GCC
supported LTO even when only object / library files were provided.
DMD does require the sources, or at least the sources you'd like to have
inlined. GCC requires all the sources used to be compiled with a speci
retard wrote:
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
For very special values of much, I suppose.
Polymorphic method calls,
What do you mean by that as an optimization?
D2 is quite complex, so it's not the best language to teach programming, but I
think it can be used for this purpose too, for example by university students
that already know basic programming in "simpler" languages (like Python).
Such students that need to learn OOP probably need to learn to us
On 05/31/2010 08:07 PM, Simen kjaeraas wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Yah, there's no argument that infinite ranges must be allowed by a
n-way cross-product. It reminds one of Cantor's diagonalization, just
in several dimensions. Shouldn't be very difficult, but it only works
if all ranges
On 05/31/2010 08:54 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 05/31/2010 08:07 PM, Simen kjaeraas wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Yah, there's no argument that infinite ranges must be allowed by a
n-way cross-product. It reminds one of Cantor's diagonalization, just
in several dimensions. Shouldn't
So what would be the way to translate those Windows headers? Create a
unique struct for each old typedef? With alias this, and a ctor? Well,
if that's the way to do it now, why not make typedef a shortcut for
exactly that!?
Yeah there must be some short and clean way to define it.
IIRC typede
Lionello Lunesu wrote:
I also miss typedef. I thought D had a great opportunity to fix it.
Take something like the Windows headers. It mostly consists of typedefs
for handles and whatnot. Without typedef you'd have to use alias and
type safety is out of the windows.
So what would be the way t
Justin Spahr-Summers, el 31 de mayo a las 16:41 me escribiste:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:05:50 +0800, Lionello Lunesu
> wrote:
> >
> > On 1-6-2010 5:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > > On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophile wrote:
> > >> Andrei Alexandrescu:
> > >>> typedef is gone.
> > >>
> > >> *m
Walter Bright, el 31 de mayo a las 15:41 me escribiste:
> retard wrote:
> >Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
> >
> >>On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
> >>>DMD is much slower than Sun Javac/Jvm 7, GNU GCC 4.5, and LLVM.
> >>For very special values of much, I suppose.
> >
> >Polymorp
On 05/31/2010 10:07 PM, Simen kjaeraas wrote:
Lionello Lunesu wrote:
I also miss typedef. I thought D had a great opportunity to fix it.
Take something like the Windows headers. It mostly consists of typedefs
for handles and whatnot. Without typedef you'd have to use alias and
type safety is
struct Typedef( T ) {
T payload;
alias payload this;
}
alias Typedef!int myInt;
There you go.
The question is if this still works flawlessly for complicated examples.
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I thought about this some more, and it's more difficult and more
interesting than I thought.
Cantor enumerated rational numbers the following way: first come all
fractions that have numerator + denominator = 1. That's only one
rational number, 1/1. Then come al
Philippe Sigaud wrote:
OK. I really like this possibility to test for members and activate
them
when possible. Maybe it could be abstracted away into a Select-like
template?
More detail please.
It's just that my code is full of these static ifs. They are clear but
I'd
like two things
On Mon, 31 May 2010 23:31:18 -0300, Leandro Lucarella
wrote:
>
> Justin Spahr-Summers, el 31 de mayo a las 16:41 me escribiste:
> > On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:05:50 +0800, Lionello Lunesu
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 1-6-2010 5:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > > > On 05/31/2010 03:54 PM, bearophil
BCS wrote:
Hello retard,
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to
Scala or Haskell.
But way better than in java, C, C++ or almost any other language.
So basically if I'm offerin
Hello Don,
BCS wrote:
Hello retard,
Mon, 31 May 2010 18:23:18 +0200, Pelle wrote:
On 05/31/2010 05:43 PM, retard wrote:
For example the lambda syntax is terribly verbose in D compared to
Scala or Haskell.
But way better than in java, C, C++ or almost any other language.
So basically
Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Walter Bright, el 31 de mayo a las 15:41 me escribiste:
To say D code is slower because it lacks link-time optimization is a
false supposition.
Yeah, but you can't get link-time optimization if you compile each file
separately (to enable partial compilation when you ch
On Mon, 31 May 2010 21:47:18 -0400, bearophile wrote:
> D2 is quite complex, so it's not the best language to teach programming,
> but I think it can be used for this purpose too, for example by
> university students that already know basic programming in "simpler"
> languages (like Python).
>
>
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