Re: DConf stream?

2018-05-01 Thread Bastiaan Veelo via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 at 06:48:40 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 at 06:26:59 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: Can we please get a word on whether DConf is live streamed, and where? Thanks! According to Mike, yes, link forthcoming: https://forum.dlang.org/post/jdlleszzvfagcazwf...@

Re: DConf stream?

2018-05-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 at 06:26:59 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: Can we please get a word on whether DConf is live streamed, and where? Thanks! According to Mike, yes, link forthcoming: https://forum.dlang.org/post/jdlleszzvfagcazwf...@forum.dlang.org

DConf stream?

2018-05-01 Thread Bastiaan Veelo via Digitalmars-d
Can we please get a word on whether DConf is live streamed, and where? Thanks!

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Dgame via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 at 00:01:42 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Now, all that said, using auto for a function signature's return type shouldn't usually be done, except in very careful, specific "voldemort type" kinds of situations (and even then, I dont see a real big point). I do it all the

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 23:54 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars- d wrote: > On 05/01/2018 10:51 PM, TheDalaiLama wrote: > > > > There's no substituion for taste...some have it.. some don't. > > > > 'Experience' is irrelevant. > > > > Honestly, there's a lot of truth to this. Peopl

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 2018-05-02 at 02:51 +, TheDalaiLama via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > How did they get 'Go'... so wrong? They didn't. A lot of people out there are using Go very effectively and thoroughly enjoying it. True it is a language by Google for Google, but it has massive traction outside Goog

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 at 03:44:37 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 05/01/2018 10:27 PM, Joakim wrote: Those are specific technical priorities that hint at a strategy, as you say, but it is better to lay out that strategy itself. Not knocking that vision document, as I called for

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 04/30/2018 05:35 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote: Also, design by introspection. Dependence on explicit types is so last century. Design by introspection FTW! Decoupling your code from explicit types makes it more encapsulated, and gives you incentive to write more defensively, resulting in better, m

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 05/01/2018 10:51 PM, TheDalaiLama wrote: There's no substituion for taste...some have it.. some don't. 'Experience' is irrelevant. Honestly, there's a lot of truth to this. People can certainly learn, of course (well, at least some people can), but experience definitely does not imply l

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 05/01/2018 10:27 PM, Joakim wrote: Those are specific technical priorities that hint at a strategy, as you say, but it is better to lay out that strategy itself. Not knocking that vision document, as I called for a concrete document like that for years, but a conference keynote is a good p

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Neia Neutuladh via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 21:11:07 UTC, Gerald wrote: So I'm curious, what's the consensus on auto? For local variables, it's not an unalloyed good, but it is good. When I use Java, everything is explicit, and sometimes that's nice. In D, I think I overuse `auto` for local variables. Somet

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread TheDalaiLama via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 26 April 2018 at 23:26:30 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I posit that redundancy is something programmers learn to appreciate as they gain experience, and that eliminating redundancy is something new programmers think is a new idea :-) Not just 'new programmers', but even old program

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 17:20:54 UTC, Ali wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Joakim wrote: I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how you

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
I'm a die-hard static typing fan, hate dynamic languages, heck I dont even like structural typing (ex, as used by D ranges). And that's exactly why I *love* auto. It lets you have static typing without turning programming into a 2000's-era C++/Java-style royal anti-DRY PITA. I also think auto

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
I'm a die-hard static typing fan, hate dynamic languages, heck I dont even like structural typing (ex, as used by D ranges). And that's exactly why I *love* auto. It lets you have static typing without turning programming into a 2000's-era C++/Java-style royal anti-DRY PITA. I also think auto

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 22:20:53 UTC, John Gabriele wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 17:20:54 UTC, Ali wrote: It is very clear, and feel free to read between the lines, on what might be the long term strategy I think point 1 in the vision is very telling 1. Lock down the language definition

Re: core.stdc and betterC

2018-05-01 Thread dd86k via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 00:34:55 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Please file all betterC issues with bugzilla and tag them with the 'betterC' keyword. We want to get them all fixed, and this makes it easy to find them! Hello Walter, I hope my first report[1] is properly done before I make other

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread John Gabriele via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 17:20:54 UTC, Ali wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Joakim wrote: I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how you

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 18:46:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Well, yes. Of course the whole idea behind big O is asymptotic behaviour, i.e., behaviour as n becomes arbitrarily large. Unfortunately, as you point out below, this is not an accurate depiction of the real world: [snip] The examp

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 05:13:13PM +, IntegratedDimensions via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] > The point of O is for the most dominant rate of growth(asymptotic > behavior). In mathematics, one only cares about n as it approaches > infinity and so any constant term will eventually be dwarfed. So

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Ali via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Joakim wrote: I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how you see D evolving. It could be during the keynotes or l

Re: Found on proggit: Krug, a new experimental programming language, compiler written in D

2018-05-01 Thread IntegratedDimensions via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 27 April 2018 at 00:03:34 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 07:14:17PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 04/26/2018 06:47 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > If "less is more" were universally true, we'd be programming > in BF instead of D. :-O (Sinc

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:46:04 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Joakim wrote: I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 21:11:07 UTC, Gerald wrote: I'll freely admit I haven't put a ton of thought into this post (never a good start), however I'm genuinely curious what people's feeling are with regards to the auto keyword. Speaking for myself, I dislike the auto keyword. Some of this

Re: A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Joakim wrote: I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how you see D evolving. It could be during the keynotes or l

A strategic vision for D

2018-05-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
I realize it's right before the conference, but I'd like to put out a request for Walter and Andrei to spend five minutes during your talks laying out some overarching strategy for how you see D evolving. It could be during the keynotes or leading off the Q&A panel, but I think it's worth layin

Re: Lightening cable?

2018-05-01 Thread Luís Marques via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 1 May 2018 at 09:32:13 UTC, Stefan Koch wrote: On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 19:30:25 UTC, Luís Marques wrote: Hi. Can anyone staying at the conference hotel lend me an iPhone charging cable? Even just for a few minutes would help. I forgot mine :( It's a normal USB-A-mini right?

Re: Lightening cable?

2018-05-01 Thread Stefan Koch via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 19:30:25 UTC, Luís Marques wrote: Hi. Can anyone staying at the conference hotel lend me an iPhone charging cable? Even just for a few minutes would help. I forgot mine :( It's a normal USB-A-mini right?

Re: auto: useful, annoying or bad practice?

2018-05-01 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 21:56:23 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 09:31:48PM +, Giles Bathgate via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] [...] T On Monday, 30 April 2018 at 21:56:23 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: [...] Appart from the good points Teoh has made, imagine you would have t