I know why I do this now

2011-10-31 Thread Chante
But I'm way to tired to stay up and tell you. I'll tell yout next time.

why don't you

2011-10-31 Thread Chante
stupid assholes get the fuck out of my face.

you are alll about your D

2011-10-31 Thread Chante
you suck

Is it this bad?

2011-10-31 Thread Chante
I wander every place. Now I am bad. I am bad because I haven't lived a day without the girl I love. She is old now. But I still love her as I knew her. Don't you even dare tell me how you don't suck. I hate you. Because you took her away from me. and I come here trying to find her and now I hat

Re: core.cpuid

2011-10-30 Thread Chante
Alex Rønne Petersen wrote: > On 30-10-2011 06:05, Andrew Wiley wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Chante >> wrote: "Manu" mailto:turkey...@gmail.com>> wrote >> in message >> news:mailman.586.1319935753.24802.digitalmar...@puremag

Re: core.cpuid

2011-10-30 Thread Chante
"Andrew Wiley" wrote in message news:mailman.591.1319951129.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Manu" wrote in message >> news:mailman.586.1319935753.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic

Re: core.cpuid

2011-10-29 Thread Chante
"Manu" wrote in message news:mailman.586.1319935753.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > What's the deal with core.cpuid? I think they just want the "mainstream" ("sheeple"/"followers"/"believers"/"90210_ers"/"younsters", etc.). If you don't fit into their petri-dish and aren't cog to add

Re: Free?

2011-10-29 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j8hpvm$2nei$3...@digitalmars.com... > Am 28.10.2011 08:49, schrieb Chante: >> I still don't know why anyone bothers doing this. I have no worries >> about >> that kind of thing (well, not very much and certainly "or

Re: Free?

2011-10-29 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j8hppc$2nei$2...@digitalmars.com... > Am 28.10.2011 05:18, schrieb Chante: >> Daniel Gibson wrote: >>> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: >>>> >>>> But it's much harder to revers

Re: Free?

2011-10-29 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j8hp8a$2nei$1...@digitalmars.com... > Am 28.10.2011 05:31, schrieb Chante: >> Daniel Gibson wrote: >>> Am 26.10.2011 23:52, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: >>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson >

Re: Free?

2011-10-28 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:02:03 -0400, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote >>> >>> compiled software >> >> (you meant, "source code") > > OK, let's try this again. > &

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Don wrote: > On 26.10.2011 17:16, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: >> On 10/26/2011 12:51 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: >> >>> "Jeff Nowakowski" wrote in message Nitpicking? Are you serious? GPL has provided immense benefits and has been voluntarily adopted around the world, >> >>> So have the non-vir

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:09:52 -0400, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message >> news:op.v3zaemhyeav7ka@localhost.localdomain... >>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote: >>&

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:18:14 -0400, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message >> news:op.v3yn2di8eav7ka@localhost.localdomain... >> >>>>> 3. It is a very slippery slope to go down

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Daniel Gibson wrote: > Am 26.10.2011 23:52, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson >> wrote: >> >>> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a machine than it is to rever

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson > wrote: > >> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: >>> >>> But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a machine >>> than it is to reverse engineer how software is built. >> >> Really? >> I

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Daniel Gibson wrote: > Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: >> >> But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a machine >> than it is to reverse engineer how software is built. > Note that reverse-engineering is like copying someone else's homework. It doesn't build a

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Russel Winder wrote: ""we" here in the UK do not allow patents on software." Good info. I would seem, then, that establishing a software company's home base in the UK is a better proposition that establishing one in the USA. Maybe. There's still the issue that a large amount of innovation is r

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:39:29 -0400, Russel Winder > wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 17:50 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> But today we have patents of these things, because they stifle >>> innovation. It creates artificial barriers that only exi

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > All > software patents do is create a barrier to innovation, and act as > weapons against other patent-holding firms. Patents as a way to protect inventions that cannot be kept a trade secret, and that's all (i.e., that which clearly can be kept trade secret, shoul

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > I think if Microsoft decided to implement D, Walter would be the > first one jumping for joy :) Walter, how about a bit more than a one-liner in response to that? I'm positive a lot of other people also would love to hear your thoughts on that.

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote: >>> Add that to the fact that software >>> patents are *rarely* beneficial to the community. >> >> Does the community want benefits at the expense of the inventor? > > The *point* of patents is to benefit the communi

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3zaemhyeav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote: > >> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote: >> >>> patents exist to give an *incentive* to give away trade secrets that >>> would >>> otherwise die with the invento

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Russel Winder" wrote in message news:mailman.530.1319696613.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 23:04 -0500, Chante wrote: [ . . . ] > Software, though, is not like a book: it's not just text. There is > inherent design, architecture, engineering

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3zaemhyeav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote: > >> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote: >> >>> patents exist to give an *incentive* to give away trade secrets that >>> would >>> otherwise die with the invento

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3zaqsfzeav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:55:34 -0400, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message >> news:op.v3ylgbgaeav7ka@localhost.localdomain...

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Russel Winder" wrote in message news:mailman.528.1319696286.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > Chante wrote: > "Timon Gehr" wrote in message=20 > news:j88jq8$1brb$1...@digitalmars.com... >=20 > >[Free software] is software that respects the freedom of

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Timon Gehr" wrote in message news:j89unt$14up$1...@digitalmars.com... > On 10/26/2011 10:36 PM, Chante wrote: >> "Timon Gehr" wrote in message >> news:j88jq8$1brb$1...@digitalmars.com... >> >>> [Free software] is software that respects th

Re: Free?

2011-10-27 Thread Chante
"Kagamin" wrote in message news:j8an18$2gqr$1...@digitalmars.com... > Chante Wrote: > >> >> So you're saying the code you write as FOSS should cost something >> >> (i.e. >> >> you want something in return)? Interesting... >> >

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3yn2di8eav7ka@localhost.localdomain... >>> 3. It is a very slippery slope to go down. Software is a purely >>> *abstract* thing, it's not a machine. >> >> Software is a machine: concrete thing doing concrete job. Patent >> doesn't protect the

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3yn2di8eav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > the fact that software patents are *rarely* beneficial to the > community. "the fact"? Citation to scientific studies required. "THE community". You mean "the entitled" set who couldn't create anything

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3ylgbgaeav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:04:18 -0400, Chante > wrote: > >> >> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message >> news:op.v3u2chz6eav7ka@localhost.localdomain...

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3yn2di8eav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:37:02 -0400, Kagamin wrote: > >> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote: >> >>> 1. Software is already well-covered by copyright. >> >> You can't write software out of thin air. Let's suppose ra

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Timon Gehr" wrote in message news:j88jq8$1brb$1...@digitalmars.com... >[Free software] is software that respects the freedom of its end users. Software is inanimate and non-human and cannot "respect" anything. The mire of propaganda that spews from "entitled" GPL fanboys is astounding.

Re: Free?

2011-10-26 Thread Chante
"Kagamin" wrote in message news:j892gn$2b5k$1...@digitalmars.com... > Steven Schveighoffer Wrote: > >> So you're saying the code you write as FOSS should cost something >> (i.e. >> you want something in return)? Interesting... > > It's just two paradigms: if you choose freedom, GPL ensures and

Re: Free?

2011-10-25 Thread Chante
my mind right now is locked-in to my own train of thought and I'm not able to escape it for all the other things currently on my mind (read, no brain-power to use for non-top-priority things). "Kagamin" wrote in message news:j881u4$79e$1...@digitalmars.com... > Chante Wr

Re: Free?

2011-10-25 Thread Chante
"Kagamin" wrote in message news:j87a5u$1sjv$1...@digitalmars.com... > there's no mercantile reason to restrict use of a patented technology > in a GPL3 software. Explain that statement please. Do you wish to retract it?

Re: Free?

2011-10-25 Thread Chante
"renoX" wrote in message news:j86eo6$6i8$1...@digitalmars.com... >> > First, it isn't new: it's just the "GPL is viral" classic FUD, >> Not that I care about anything GPL (rejected it long ago), > > Your choice. > >> but how is calling GPL'd code "viral" not appropriate when just > placing uninf

Re: Free?

2011-10-24 Thread Chante
"renoX" wrote in message news:j8383e$1ul8$1...@digitalmars.com... > >I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life. >> >>GPL: "Free as in Herpes" >> >>Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head. > > No, not at all. > First, it isn't new: it's just the "GPL is viral" classic FUD, Not

Re: Free?

2011-10-24 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j84ibc$1l0g$3...@digitalmars.com... > Am 24.10.2011 02:35, schrieb Chante: >> "Daniel Gibson" wrote in message >> news:j822kv$7jf$2...@digitalmars.com... >>> >>> I've never read a job descriptio

Re: Free?

2011-10-24 Thread Chante
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message news:op.v3u2chz6eav7ka@localhost.localdomain... > On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:39:54 -0400, Kagamin wrote: > >> Chante Wrote: >> >>> While I haven't thought it through (and maybe don't have the >>> knowl

Re: Free?

2011-10-24 Thread Chante
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message news:j84kee$1vk5$1...@digitalmars.com... > "Kagamin" wrote in message > news:j83tie$abu$1...@digitalmars.com... >>> You're afraid of others, but GPL can also protect *your* code. >> >> Most notably GPL protects the rights of your users. Are you thinking >> a

Re: Free?

2011-10-24 Thread Chante
"Kagamin" wrote in message news:j83tbq$a12$1...@digitalmars.com... > Chante Wrote: > >> While I haven't thought it through (and maybe don't have the knowledge >> to >> do so), elimination of software patents was something I had in mind as >

Re: Free?

2011-10-23 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j822kv$7jf$2...@digitalmars.com... > Am 23.10.2011 23:28, schrieb Chante: >> "Daniel Gibson" wrote in message >> news:j81ve0$7jf$1...@digitalmars.com... >>> Am 23.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Chante: >>>> &

Re: Free?

2011-10-23 Thread Chante
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message news:j81ve0$7jf$1...@digitalmars.com... > Am 23.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Chante: >> "Jeff Nowakowski" wrote in message >> news:j81rap$1f50$1...@digitalmars.com... >>> On 10/22/2011 01:56 PM, Steve Teale wrote: &g

Re: Free?

2011-10-23 Thread Chante
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message news:j81vad$1pl0$1...@digitalmars.com... > "Chante" wrote in message > news:j81ur0$1oij$1...@digitalmars.com... >> >> "Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message >> news:mailman.350.1319394157.24802.digitalmar.

Re: Free?

2011-10-23 Thread Chante
"Jeff Nowakowski" wrote in message news:j81rap$1f50$1...@digitalmars.com... > On 10/22/2011 01:56 PM, Steve Teale wrote: >> I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life. >> >> GPL: "Free as in Herpes" >> >> Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head. > > No, it doesn't. It's pure fla

Re: Free?

2011-10-23 Thread Chante
"Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message news:mailman.350.1319394157.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > On Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:06:26 Jose Armando Garcia wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Russel Winder >> wrote: >> > It funny how when it comes to licences, viral is used as a >>

Re: Free?

2011-10-22 Thread Chante
"Steve Teale" wrote in message news:j7v048$1ut1$1...@digitalmars.com... > I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life. > > GPL: "Free as in Herpes" > > Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head. Indeed, I have always thought of GPL'd code similarly (think leprosy). I don't want t