But I'm way to tired to stay up and tell you. I'll tell yout next time.
stupid assholes get the fuck out of my face.
you suck
I wander every place. Now I am bad. I am bad because I haven't lived a
day without the girl I love. She is old now. But I still love her as I
knew her. Don't you even dare tell me how you don't suck. I hate you.
Because you took her away from me. and I come here trying to find her and
now I hat
Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> On 30-10-2011 06:05, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Chante
>> wrote: "Manu" mailto:turkey...@gmail.com>> wrote
>> in message
>> news:mailman.586.1319935753.24802.digitalmar...@puremag
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> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Manu" wrote in message
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> What's the deal with core.cpuid?
I think they just want the "mainstream"
("sheeple"/"followers"/"believers"/"90210_ers"/"younsters", etc.). If you
don't fit into their petri-dish and aren't cog to add
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
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> Am 28.10.2011 08:49, schrieb Chante:
>> I still don't know why anyone bothers doing this. I have no worries
>> about
>> that kind of thing (well, not very much and certainly "or
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> Am 28.10.2011 05:18, schrieb Chante:
>> Daniel Gibson wrote:
>>> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
>>>>
>>>> But it's much harder to revers
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
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> Am 28.10.2011 05:31, schrieb Chante:
>> Daniel Gibson wrote:
>>> Am 26.10.2011 23:52, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson
>
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:02:03 -0400, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote
>>>
>>> compiled software
>>
>> (you meant, "source code")
>
> OK, let's try this again.
>
&
Don wrote:
> On 26.10.2011 17:16, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
>> On 10/26/2011 12:51 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff Nowakowski" wrote in message
Nitpicking? Are you serious? GPL has provided immense benefits and
has been voluntarily adopted around the world,
>>
>>> So have the non-vir
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:09:52 -0400, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
>> news:op.v3zaemhyeav7ka@localhost.localdomain...
>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>>&
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:18:14 -0400, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
>> news:op.v3yn2di8eav7ka@localhost.localdomain...
>>
>>>>> 3. It is a very slippery slope to go down
Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Am 26.10.2011 23:52, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a
machine than it is to rever
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:51:11 -0400, Daniel Gibson
> wrote:
>
>> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
>>>
>>> But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a machine
>>> than it is to reverse engineer how software is built.
>>
>> Really?
>> I
Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Am 26.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer:
>>
>> But it's much harder to reverse engineer how someone built a machine
>> than it is to reverse engineer how software is built.
>
Note that reverse-engineering is like copying someone else's homework. It
doesn't build a
Russel Winder wrote:
""we" here in the UK do not allow patents on software."
Good info. I would seem, then, that establishing a software company's
home base in the UK is a better proposition that establishing one in the
USA. Maybe. There's still the issue that a large amount of innovation is
r
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:39:29 -0400, Russel Winder
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 17:50 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> [ . . . ]
>>> But today we have patents of these things, because they stifle
>>> innovation. It creates artificial barriers that only exi
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> All
> software patents do is create a barrier to innovation, and act as
> weapons against other patent-holding firms.
Patents as a way to protect inventions that cannot be kept a trade
secret, and that's all (i.e., that which clearly can be kept trade
secret, shoul
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> I think if Microsoft decided to implement D, Walter would be the
> first one jumping for joy :)
Walter, how about a bit more than a one-liner in response to that? I'm
positive a lot of other people also would love to hear your thoughts on
that.
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>>> Add that to the fact that software
>>> patents are *rarely* beneficial to the community.
>>
>> Does the community want benefits at the expense of the inventor?
>
> The *point* of patents is to benefit the communi
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>
>> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
>>
>>> patents exist to give an *incentive* to give away trade secrets that
>>> would
>>> otherwise die with the invento
"Russel Winder" wrote in message
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On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 23:04 -0500, Chante wrote:
[ . . . ]
> Software, though, is not like a book: it's not just text. There is
> inherent design, architecture, engineering
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:28:21 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>
>> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
>>
>>> patents exist to give an *incentive* to give away trade secrets that
>>> would
>>> otherwise die with the invento
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:55:34 -0400, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
>> news:op.v3ylgbgaeav7ka@localhost.localdomain...
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> Chante wrote:
> "Timon Gehr" wrote in message=20
> news:j88jq8$1brb$1...@digitalmars.com...
>=20
> >[Free software] is software that respects the freedom of
"Timon Gehr" wrote in message
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> On 10/26/2011 10:36 PM, Chante wrote:
>> "Timon Gehr" wrote in message
>> news:j88jq8$1brb$1...@digitalmars.com...
>>
>>> [Free software] is software that respects th
"Kagamin" wrote in message
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> Chante Wrote:
>
>> >> So you're saying the code you write as FOSS should cost something
>> >> (i.e.
>> >> you want something in return)? Interesting...
>> >
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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>>> 3. It is a very slippery slope to go down. Software is a purely
>>> *abstract* thing, it's not a machine.
>>
>> Software is a machine: concrete thing doing concrete job. Patent
>> doesn't protect the
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> the fact that software patents are *rarely* beneficial to the
> community.
"the fact"? Citation to scientific studies required.
"THE community". You mean "the entitled" set who couldn't create anything
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:04:18 -0400, Chante
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
>> news:op.v3u2chz6eav7ka@localhost.localdomain...
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:37:02 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>
>> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Software is already well-covered by copyright.
>>
>> You can't write software out of thin air. Let's suppose ra
"Timon Gehr" wrote in message
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>[Free software] is software that respects the freedom of its end users.
Software is inanimate and non-human and cannot "respect" anything. The
mire of propaganda that spews from "entitled" GPL fanboys is astounding.
"Kagamin" wrote in message
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> Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
>
>> So you're saying the code you write as FOSS should cost something
>> (i.e.
>> you want something in return)? Interesting...
>
> It's just two paradigms: if you choose freedom, GPL ensures and
my
mind right now is locked-in to my own train of thought and I'm not able
to escape it for all the other things currently on my mind (read, no
brain-power to use for non-top-priority things).
"Kagamin" wrote in message
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> Chante Wr
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> there's no mercantile reason to restrict use of a patented technology
> in a GPL3 software.
Explain that statement please. Do you wish to retract it?
"renoX" wrote in message
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>> > First, it isn't new: it's just the "GPL is viral" classic FUD,
>> Not that I care about anything GPL (rejected it long ago),
>
> Your choice.
>
>> but how is calling GPL'd code "viral" not appropriate when just
> placing uninf
"renoX" wrote in message
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> >I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life.
>>
>>GPL: "Free as in Herpes"
>>
>>Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head.
>
> No, not at all.
> First, it isn't new: it's just the "GPL is viral" classic FUD,
Not
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
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> Am 24.10.2011 02:35, schrieb Chante:
>> "Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
>> news:j822kv$7jf$2...@digitalmars.com...
>>>
>>> I've never read a job descriptio
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:39:54 -0400, Kagamin wrote:
>
>> Chante Wrote:
>>
>>> While I haven't thought it through (and maybe don't have the
>>> knowl
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
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> "Kagamin" wrote in message
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>>> You're afraid of others, but GPL can also protect *your* code.
>>
>> Most notably GPL protects the rights of your users. Are you thinking
>> a
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> Chante Wrote:
>
>> While I haven't thought it through (and maybe don't have the knowledge
>> to
>> do so), elimination of software patents was something I had in mind as
>
"Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
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> Am 23.10.2011 23:28, schrieb Chante:
>> "Daniel Gibson" wrote in message
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>>> Am 23.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Chante:
>>>> &
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> Am 23.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Chante:
>> "Jeff Nowakowski" wrote in message
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>>> On 10/22/2011 01:56 PM, Steve Teale wrote:
&g
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> "Chante" wrote in message
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>>
>> "Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
>> news:mailman.350.1319394157.24802.digitalmar.
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> On 10/22/2011 01:56 PM, Steve Teale wrote:
>> I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life.
>>
>> GPL: "Free as in Herpes"
>>
>> Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head.
>
> No, it doesn't. It's pure fla
"Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
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> On Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:06:26 Jose Armando Garcia wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Russel Winder
>> wrote:
>> > It funny how when it comes to licences, viral is used as a
>>
"Steve Teale" wrote in message
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> I'd never seen it before - maybe I lead a sheltered life.
>
> GPL: "Free as in Herpes"
>
> Doesn't that just hit the nail on the head.
Indeed, I have always thought of GPL'd code similarly (think leprosy). I
don't want t
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