Re: Mindset of the D team vs the Rust team

2016-03-24 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Bruno Medeiros writes: > Using old communication software like NNTP is one example of that. > Compare with Rust's Discourse. Having ability to use nntp reader (Gnus) which I use for all my mailing lists (via Gmane) is big 'pro' to choose, among many other things, D over Rust. NNTP provides auto

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-19 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Vadim Lopatin writes: > Most wanted feature for OSX is not a look & feel, but support of native OSX > menu. That's really strange for me, but, otoh, I'm aware that "De gustibus non est disputandum" :-) > Not sure if it's easy to use OSX system theme resources in DlangUI. OK. Sincerely, Gour

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-19 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Gary Willoughby writes: > Tkd is truly cross-platform (Linux, Mac and Windows), very simple to > understand and 'just works' with very little effort but it's not very > modern. When you say 'modern' do you consider lack of some 'modern' widget or just general look (although I read that it improv

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-19 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jacob Carlborg writes: > Not sure what you're referring to. The "Services" menu? Probably...although my experience with Mac OS is very limited... Sincerely, Gour -- >From wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back und

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-19 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jacob Carlborg writes: > I don't agree. I want everything to look native, not just the menu ;) Considering that I'm on Linux, I'm happy there is no such thing as 'native', but there is choice, although in my case it's GNOME/GTK. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- One who sees inaction in action, and acti

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-18 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Vadim Lopatin writes: > Some of such widgets are easy to implement. > Switch - just need to add new style for button to theme. You already did it, right? > Switch, Stack, Notebook, HeaderBar - new styles for TabHeader, > TabHost, TabWidget Can be implemented in one day. It sounds good. ;) > S

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-18 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Gary Willoughby writes: > Sometimes the widgets don't look 100% native. You can take a look at > the example if you want. I did and it must say it looks pretty good. ;) At the end, the look is not all in all...how is tkd in regard to memory management etc.? Sincerely, Gour -- As a strong wi

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-16 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Karabuta writes: > I run on Linux so i would sadly go for Gtk :( whilst keeping an eye on > DlangUI Do you have any opinion for DWT (https://github.com/d-widget-toolkit/dwt which *might* be a nice one? Sincerely, Gour -- Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of the

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-15 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
thedeemon writes: > It is quite "D-ish", using the power of D metaprogramming and D syntax > quite effectively in some places. That's nice. > One big 'pro' of dlangui for me is that you can get a self-contained > 1-2 MB binary without dependencies on any DLLs. Small to download, > easy to run,

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-15 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jaocb Carlborg writes: > No, DWT does _not_ work on OS X, neither native nor non-native. I'm > working on the OS X port indirectly. The automated process should work > for all ports. OK, the main thing for now it would be that it works on Linux...but I have some problems - see DWT group. > Anot

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-15 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jordi Sayol via Digitalmars-d writes: > TkD works on Linux. Have you used it and/or what would be some prp/cons vs GtkD? Sincerely, Gour -- One who is able to withdraw his senses from sense objects, as the tortoise draws its limbs within the shell, is firmly fixed in perfect consciousness.

Re: D vs Rust

2016-03-15 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
bearophile writes: Hello bearophile, and thank you very much for your insightful reply! > But for an average multi-platform desktop application Ada is not a > good idea. The main problem is not the language itself (that is very > verbose, but that's not a show-stopper), but the tooling (very s

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Luis writes: > A bit offtopic, but I think that we need is our D-ish wxWidgets > equivalent. In other words, a GUI that uses native widgets across > plataforms and all the power of D. Well, I see that wxWidgets is mature product and is heavily struggling with manpower to maintain and further dev

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jacob Carlborg writes: > Well, currently there is no support for OS X so if that's a > requirement then DWT will obviously not work. Well, OS X and Windows are 'nice to have'. > Personally I would not create an application for OS X at all if it did > not have a native GUI. It would be nice to

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Jaocb Carlborg writes: > There's DWT [1] as well. Wrong URL. ;) I know about DWT, but when I was considering D in the past, DWT was not actively developed and was, iirc, in kind of maint. mode only. > Which uses native drawing operations and are completely written in D. That's nice. > Althou

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Gerald writes: > I've never tried it, however having been down this road before (i.e. > non-native widgets) with Java Swing I have no great desire to try > something in a similar vein, so that ruled it out for me. I know that there is/was DWT, but I was also not excited with it when considering

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
FreeSlave writes: > GTK-D is ok if you're ok with gtk on Windows and OSX. Well, considering there are not many other options like wx/Qt which seems to big, I can probably live with it being aware that GTK is thrilling neither on Mac nor on Windows, but there are some apps Pro apps like Ardour us

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Chris Wright writes: > I'm guessing dlangui will be best here, but GtkD is pretty good. What might be some 'pro' of dlangui? > You might be able to use model-view-presenter and keep the model and > presenter @safe and the view @trusted, but @safe has poor adoption so > far. I recall reading so

Re: the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-14 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
WebFreak001 writes: > I never tried tkd though. But in my opinion GtkD is currently the best > one and the API is just awesome Thank you. Sincerely, Gour -- The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out by the

the most D-ish GUI library

2016-03-13 Thread Saša Janiška via Digitalmars-d
Hello, After long pause and trying some other languages, I've decided to try (again) with D for writing open-source multi-platform desktop (GUI) application. I've selected three different libraries: a) dlangui (https://github.com/buggins/dlangui b) GtkD (https://github.com/gtkd-developers/GtkD