[OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
Just a bunch of links: http://www.horstpeterhermann.de/ada_related/gems.html This one reminded me D, with some hints about what could still be offered: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/ada-gem-7/

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: Just a bunch of links: http://www.horstpeterhermann.de/ada_related/gems.html This one reminded me D, with some hints about what could still be offered: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/ada-gem-7/ Hijack, also OT: using C++ with

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread bearophile via Digitalmars-d
eles: Just a bunch of links: http://www.horstpeterhermann.de/ada_related/gems.html This one reminded me D, with some hints about what could still be offered: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/ada-gem-7/ Two nice ones: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/ada-gem-24/ http://www.ada

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: http://ask-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/30/1344224/c-and-the-stl-12-years-later-what-do-you-think-now "I've been using it professionally for 15 years now, and if I observe anythi

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 14.10.2014 um 16:56 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: Just a bunch of links: http://www.horstpeterhermann.de/ada_related/gems.html This one reminded me D, with some hints about what could still be offered: http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/gems/ada-gem-

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: http://ask-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/30/1344224/c-and-the-stl-12-years-later-what-do-you-think-now "I've been using it professionally for

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 19:49:08 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: http://ask-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/30/1344224/c-and-the-stl-12-years-lat

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-14 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 14.10.2014 um 22:08 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 19:49:08 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: http:

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 20:47:14 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 22:08 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 19:49:08 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote:

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 19:49:08 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: consistency between 3rd party libraries. Java has spoiled me While I agree

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 07:31:45 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 19:49:08 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 17:30 schrieb eles: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 14:56:53 UTC, eles wrote: On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 at 13:52:24 UTC, eles wrote: consistency betw

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 07:27:38 UTC, eles wrote: In defense of C++, beyond its C roots & compatibility, it also have been the language that made the mistakes useful for the other languages. That is, Java and C# capitalized on C++'s mistakes by simply not repeating them. Of course, mis

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 08:40:04 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 07:27:38 UTC, eles wrote: ... For some reason Microsoft did not make that strategic move until much later. I think Bill Gates was the reason, MS pushed Visual Basic too much to be taken

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 10:32:53 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Now the going native wave that hit Microsoft, has made them create the Windows Runtime, having .NET compile to native code in Windows Phone 8 and create the .NET Native, the ahead-of-time native code compiler for .NET. Yes, th

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 15.10.2014 um 16:41 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 10:32:53 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Now the going native wave that hit Microsoft, has made them create the Windows Runtime, having .NET compile to native code in Windows Phone 8 and create the

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 17:10:52 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I saw that roadmap. It is also the confirmation that they won't ever add generics. So I guess, a better C it is. It isn't all that great at the C-stuff, Go is no system level language IMO. But templates can always be added l

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 15.10.2014 um 19:41 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 17:10:52 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I saw that roadmap. It is also the confirmation that they won't ever add generics. So I guess, a better C it is. It isn't all that great at the C-stuff, Go

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:15:11 +0200 Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Even if that isn't the case, the only thing C is good at currently is > embedded devices low on RAM, device drivers and being a portable > assembler. and it sux as portable assembler. signature.asc Description: PGP signa

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread eles via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 18:15:10 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 15.10.2014 um 19:41 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 17:10:52 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I saw that roadmap. It is also the confirmation that they won't ever add generics. So I g

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 18:15:10 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Even if that isn't the case, the only thing C is good at currently is embedded devices low on RAM, device drivers and being a portable assembler. For everything else, there are better alternatives. Portable libraries. It is a

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 15.10.2014 um 20:29 schrieb eles: On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 18:15:10 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Am 15.10.2014 um 19:41 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 17:10:52 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I saw that roadmap. It is also the confirmation that

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 18:50:21 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: This is C++, I am speaking about C. C++ is part of my "there are better alternatives" list. Scott Meyers pointed out that C is the most popular open source language still (which probably is true if you count lines of code), an

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
Just for fun, some D tag stats from Stackoverflow for the last week: C++: 2080 this week Go: 96 this week Rust: 58 this week D: 25 this month Or (roughly): C++: 357x more questions Go: 16x Rust: 10x

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 15.10.2014 um 22:00 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 18:50:21 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: This is C++, I am speaking about C. C++ is part of my "there are better alternatives" list. Scott Meyers pointed out that C is the most popular open source

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:37:19 + via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Just for fun, some D tag stats from Stackoverflow for the last > week: > > C++: 2080 this week > Go: 96 this week > Rust: 58 this week > D: 25 this month > > Or (roughly): > > C++: 357x more questions > Go: 16x > Rust: 10x so, c++

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 20:48:21 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: so, c++ is most complicated language, and D is so easy and nice that people don't even asking questions. Yeah, top stars on github this month for D: libasync: 22 stars vibe.d: 15 phobos: 10 druntime: 8 dash: 9 For

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
Am 15.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ": On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 20:48:21 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: Ada projects have no stars... Who needs stars when working on an enterprise budget? :) Besides, Ada never was an hobbyist language. Onl

Re: [OT] Ada gems

2014-10-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 21:29:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Who needs stars when working on an enterprise budget? :) Yeah, these metrics are skewed, but it is interesting to see what kind of projects people get excited about in different languages. I didn't expect Go to do so well on g