Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-23 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:54 -0500, Jean Crystof wrote: Nick Sabalausky Wrote: I've been under the impression that, as a rule, the USPTO doesn't check for prior art and deliberately leaves invalid due to prior art up to the courts. That's how it works. The patent threat is always

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-22 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Don nos...@nospam.com wrote in message news:ihcrve$1t5l$1...@digitalmars.com... spir wrote: On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things.

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-22 Thread Jean Crystof
Nick Sabalausky Wrote: I've been under the impression that, as a rule, the USPTO doesn't check for prior art and deliberately leaves invalid due to prior art up to the courts. That's how it works. The patent threat is always there. Someone can patent delegates, classes, and whatever

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Don
Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates) This was obviously a patent aimed at protecting

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread spir
On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates) This was

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:06:37 -0500, spir denis.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 21.01.2011 21:06, schrieb spir: On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:18:46 -0500, Daniel Gibson metalcae...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:18:57 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote: Damn, beat my by 11 seconds :) -Steve

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 21.01.2011 21:20, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:18:46 -0500, Daniel Gibson metalcae...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:18:57 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote: Damn, beat my by 11 seconds :) -Steve *g*

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread spir
On 01/21/2011 09:18 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote: You're thinking of closures (which are also delegates in D), but D's delegates can also be used to simple point to a member of an object. It's kind of hidden in the definition: Delegates to non-static nested functions contain two pieces of data: the

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Don
spir wrote: On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates)

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 21.01.2011 21:31, schrieb spir: On 01/21/2011 09:18 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote: You're thinking of closures (which are also delegates in D), but D's delegates can also be used to simple point to a member of an object. It's kind of hidden in the definition: Delegates to non-static nested

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 21.01.2011 21:55, schrieb Don: spir wrote: On 01/21/2011 03:51 PM, Don wrote: Don wrote: BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-20 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 22:37 +0100, Simen kjaeraas wrote: Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote: retard r...@tard.com.invalid wrote in message news:ih7jv4$q49$7...@digitalmars.com... Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-20 Thread spir
On 01/19/2011 10:09 PM, retard wrote: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovicandrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p I thought Europe was getting

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-20 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 20.01.2011 11:19, schrieb spir: On 01/19/2011 10:09 PM, retard wrote: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovicandrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-20 Thread Don
BlazingWhitester wrote: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates) This was obviously a patent aimed at protecting Delphi from

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On 01/18/2011 05:52 PM, BlazingWhitester wrote: Walter, could you give some comments about this? Does dmd violate anything? It's probably in Walter's best interest to not even look at it. On the one hand, it's probably a crap software patent that the Patent Office has been handing out like

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread retard
Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:50:46 -0500, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: On 01/18/2011 05:52 PM, BlazingWhitester wrote: Walter, could you give some comments about this? Does dmd violate anything? It's probably in Walter's best interest to not even look at it. On the one hand, it's probably a crap

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
retard r...@tard.com.invalid wrote in message news:ih7dih$q49$2...@digitalmars.com... Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:50:46 -0500, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: On 01/18/2011 05:52 PM, BlazingWhitester wrote: Walter, could you give some comments about this? Does dmd violate anything? It's probably in

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p I thought Europe was getting software patents?

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
You're thinking EU. :p On 1/19/11, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p I thought Europe was getting software patents?

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread retard
Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move to Europe. :p I thought Europe was getting software patents? It's the US

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky
retard r...@tard.com.invalid wrote in message news:ih7jv4$q49$7...@digitalmars.com... Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.724.1295465996.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Or pack your bags and move

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-19 Thread Simen kjaeraas
Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote: retard r...@tard.com.invalid wrote in message news:ih7jv4$q49$7...@digitalmars.com... Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:44:38 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message

Potential patent issues

2011-01-18 Thread BlazingWhitester
I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates) http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5628016.pdf - describes compiler support for SEH, also

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky
BlazingWhitester max.kl...@gmail.com wrote in message news:ih55mp$2gtl$1...@digitalmars.com... I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 18.01.2011 23:52, schrieb BlazingWhitester: I spotted some patents that can theaten current DMD implementation. Wanted to clarify things. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6185728.pdf - this patent describes method pointers implementation (delegates) This is trivial, what idiot grants these

Re: Potential patent issues

2011-01-18 Thread BlazingWhitester
On 2011-01-19 01:15:03 +0200, Daniel Gibson said: This is trivial, what idiot grants these kind of patents? And were there really no delegates before Jan. 31 1996 when this was filed? If I'm not mistaken, Oberon-2 implemented pointers to record-bound procedures as fat-pointers