Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 18:06:00 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: In any case, we're D, we're systems/native, I think we can do much better than Disqus, and I submit Vibe.d/DFeed/etc as evidence that settling for Disqus is below us. So, livefyre then? ;) Agree with Nick and Vladimir fwiw,

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

We also have a wiki, and the existing links to it on each page. We've had that for a while, wasn't successful. It is not obvious where to find the new wiki entering dlang.org. There is no link to it from dlang.org in the menu under community and the comments link at the bottom of each page lea

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Almost all YouTube videos are HTML5-ready. Really?? I thought youtube still uses Flash. I'm no fan of youtube, but it *is* a significant data point, considering that some people are actually making a living off homemade videos posted on youtube.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 01:05:59PM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:52 -0800 > Jonathan M Davis wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:31:32 Simen Kjaeraas wrote: > > > > Understatement of the year. :-P > > > > > > Already? Wow. > > > > LOL. > > > > Well, it's ac

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:52 -0800 Jonathan M Davis wrote: > On Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:31:32 Simen Kjaeraas wrote: > > > Understatement of the year. :-P > > > > Already? Wow. > > LOL. > > Well, it's actually very easy to make the understatement of the year > when there have been very few

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:31:32 Simen Kjaeraas wrote: > > Understatement of the year. :-P > > Already? Wow. LOL. Well, it's actually very easy to make the understatement of the year when there have been very few understatements already made. The question is whether it will _stay_ the und

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 2013-57-01 20:01, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 07:51:20PM +0100, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-47-01 19:01, Walter Bright wrote: >On 1/1/2013 10:00 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: >>God no. Disqus is complete shit. > > >Reasons? Nick & Javascript is a less than optimal combinatio

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 07:51:20PM +0100, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: > On 2013-47-01 19:01, Walter Bright wrote: > > >On 1/1/2013 10:00 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > >>God no. Disqus is complete shit. > > > > > >Reasons? > > Nick & Javascript is a less than optimal combination? [...] Understatement o

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 2013-47-01 19:01, Walter Bright wrote: On 1/1/2013 10:00 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: God no. Disqus is complete shit. Reasons? Nick & Javascript is a less than optimal combination? -- Simen

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 1/1/2013 10:00 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: God no. Disqus is complete shit. Reasons?

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:36:09 -0500 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with > dlang.org: > > http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html > > What do you think? God no. Disqus is complete shit.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/30/2012 07:25 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: I think the ideal solution would be some combination of both wiki and discussion, something like StackOverflow. I recently stumbled across OSQA (free, open source Q&A system): http://www.osqa.net/ I'm not sure how well it works, though. rega

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 17:48:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/29/12 10:22 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Sönke has listed the advantages provided by Disqus. I'll list a few disadvantages (some of which may be obvious) for consideration: [snip] Good points. I, too, think a cus

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 4:09 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 12/29/2012 6:15 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: 5. Both have voting, and PHP sorts comments in decreasing order by upvotes. Can we also sort the same? Also, can we add some randomness (e.g. randomly push one of the comments in a top position) such that

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/2012 10:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: FWIW in my opinion: click on a link to get somewhere vs. content integrated on the page - big difference. In my opinion, too.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/2012 6:15 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: 5. Both have voting, and PHP sorts comments in decreasing order by upvotes. Can we also sort the same? Also, can we add some randomness (e.g. randomly push one of the comments in a top position) such that new good content has a chance to be upvote

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/2012 5:47 AM, Chris wrote: As regards PHP I have to admit that I hardly ever use the code examples in the comment section - too basic and too messy. The best real world PHP code is still either on Stackoverflow or on webprogrammers' homepages, articles etc. But that is because PHP is use

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/2012 8:03 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Walter removes such posts regularly. The problem is that forum.dlang.org caches them indefinitely. I'm working on this problem right now. Thanks for working on that. His posts are ugly and make us all look bad having them on the front page of th

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 12:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: With MediaWiki, I have the option of integrating edit notifications into DFeed, and turn them into IRC notifications. This has allowed #d users to answer StackOverflow questions within minutes of them being posted. (I have delayed this to avoid poin

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 12:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 17:37:37 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/29/12 9:55 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 14:22:27 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Yes. I very strongly believe we need to have a form

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 17:37:37 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/29/12 9:55 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 14:22:27 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Yes. I very strongly believe we need to have a form of community-provided contents. (Not sure whethe

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 10:22 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Sönke has listed the advantages provided by Disqus. I'll list a few disadvantages (some of which may be obvious) for consideration: [snip] Good points. I, too, think a customized, highly integrated version of forum.dlang.org would be preferable.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 9:55 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 14:22:27 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Yes. I very strongly believe we need to have a form of community-provided contents. (Not sure whether disqus is the most appropriate vehicle, but since it's the only one that'

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: > 1. It is a free service provided by a third party. > As their TOS states, they may cancel or limit the service at > any time without prior warning. Yep, remember how DMD binaries were finally hosted on Github, which had faster downloads than digitalmar

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 15:19, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: > On 12/29/12 2:30 AM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: >> Am 29.12.2012 07:08, schrieb Walter Bright: >>> On 12/28/2012 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: I'm a little concerned (well, more than a little concerned) about it becoming a collection of j

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 15:59:16 UTC, SomeDude wrote: Let me remind we have in this very newsgroup a drunk dude who regularly keeps throwing random insults around under different nicknames (right now, Han). Not to mention the occasional spam. Maybe if someone started taking care of the

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 14:27:18 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/29/12 4:48 AM, Walter Bright wrote: On 12/28/2012 11:30 PM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: As a moderator you have quick access to "Mark as spam", "Blacklist" and "Delete" for each message and there is a separate moderation p

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 04:36:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Sönke has listed the advantages pro

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 13:11:24 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 29.12.2012 13:40, schrieb Vladimir Panteleev: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 07:56:15 UTC, F i L wrote: I don't think it should be collapsed by default (it's less googlable that way).. just throwing that out there. Disqu

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 14:22:27 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Yes. I very strongly believe we need to have a form of community-provided contents. (Not sure whether disqus is the most appropriate vehicle, but since it's the only one that's currently implemented, it's by definition th

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 5:23 AM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 29.12.2012 10:48, schrieb Walter Bright: Essentially, none of these systems are foolproof, and may wind up requiring constant attention to keep the spam out. Regarding spam, it also supports the following: - Allow only registered users to post or

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 4:48 AM, Walter Bright wrote: On 12/28/2012 11:30 PM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: As a moderator you have quick access to "Mark as spam", "Blacklist" and "Delete" for each message and there is a separate moderation page, where all messages can be filtered and handled in batches. Also there

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 2:38 AM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: We could also make the comments collapsed by default to clean up the page appearance. But regarding professionalism, even Microsoft has user comments on MSDN: . Nothing keeps a moderator f

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 2:30 AM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 29.12.2012 07:08, schrieb Walter Bright: On 12/28/2012 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: I'm a little concerned (well, more than a little concerned) about it becoming a collection of junk posts. How does the PHP one avoid that? Further perusal of the PH

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/29/12 12:54 AM, Maxim Fomin wrote: It is easy to open discussion here and make a pull request to dpl.org, so I see no reason in allowing user comments in official spec site. I wouldn't say it's that easy. Also, integration of user provided content has been a huge success for PHP. Andre

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/28/12 11:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 12/28/2012 8:36 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Again, I'm very

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 06:08:30 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Further perusal of the PHP ones show quite a bit of junk posts. Is there a way to enable a single button delete for the moderator? As regards PHP I have to admit that I hardly ever use the code examples in the comment section

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 13:40, schrieb Vladimir Panteleev: > On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 07:56:15 UTC, F i L wrote: >> I don't think it should be collapsed by default (it's less googlable that >> way).. just throwing >> that out there. > > Disqus comments cannot be indexed by Google either way, as Dis

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

AFAIK, Google Bot can do some basic JavaScript. On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 12:40:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 07:56:15 UTC, F i L wrote: I don't think it should be collapsed by default (it's less googlable that way).. just throwing that out there.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 07:56:15 UTC, F i L wrote: I don't think it should be collapsed by default (it's less googlable that way).. just throwing that out there. Disqus comments cannot be indexed by Google either way, as Disqus is a purely JavaScript-based comment system.

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 10:48, schrieb Walter Bright: > Essentially, none of these systems are foolproof, and may wind up requiring > constant attention to > keep the spam out. Regarding spam, it also supports the following: - Allow only registered users to post or require pre-moderation for unregistere

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/28/2012 11:30 PM, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 29.12.2012 07:08, schrieb Walter Bright: On 12/28/2012 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: I'm a little concerned (well, more than a little concerned) about it becoming a collection of junk posts. How does the PHP one avoid that? Further perusal of the

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 10:01, schrieb Faux Amis: > > Good experience with this in PHP and jQuery. > I think it is a great way to help people coming to the language who do not > yet know all the gripes > and grumbles. > > About the cloud aspect: Does Disqus have a backup feature? It has an "export" featu

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 29/12/2012 05:36, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Again, I'm very much into the idea of integrating community-pro

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Sönke Ludwig wrote: And frankly, in my experience such comments were immensely helpful in a number of cases on various online documentation sites (including MSDN and ...PHP). They are like an in-place stack overflow discussion that you don't have to search for, often with some real gems. I co

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

What do you think? It's great!

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 05:45, schrieb Jonathan M Davis: > On Friday, December 28, 2012 23:36:09 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: >> All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: >> >> http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balanc >> edParens.html >> >> Wh

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Am 29.12.2012 07:08, schrieb Walter Bright: > On 12/28/2012 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: >> I'm a little concerned (well, more than a little concerned) about it >> becoming a >> collection of junk posts. How does the PHP one avoid that? > > Further perusal of the PHP ones show quite a bit of jun

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/28/2012 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote: I'm a little concerned (well, more than a little concerned) about it becoming a collection of junk posts. How does the PHP one avoid that? Further perusal of the PHP ones show quite a bit of junk posts. Is there a way to enable a single button delete

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Saturday, 29 December 2012 at 04:36:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Again, I'm very much into the idea of

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

Jonathan M Davis: I confess that my initial reaction is that it's incredibly messy to have user comments on documentation. It seems unprofessional to me, and if the documentation isn't adequate, then I'd argue that it should be improved rather than having stray users comment on it. This is API

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On 12/28/2012 8:36 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Again, I'm very much into the idea of integrating community-p

Re: Social comments integrated with dlang.org

On Friday, December 28, 2012 23:36:09 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: > > http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balanc > edParens.html > > What do you think? Again, I'm very much into the idea o

Social comments integrated with dlang.org

All - please take a look at Sönke's integration of Disqus with dlang.org: http://vibed.org/temp/d-programming-language.org/phobos/std/algorithm/balancedParens.html What do you think? Again, I'm very much into the idea of integrating community-provided content but I was hoping a more D-friendly