Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 at 05:59:05 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:47:48 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: [snip] Windows has been a bit of a pain, but mostly from the native code library side. It should be easy to install google snappy right? On Linux it is. On Windows,

Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-22 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:47:48 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: [snip] Windows has been a bit of a pain, but mostly from the native code library side. It should be easy to install google snappy right? On Linux it is. On Windows, not so much... And that's just one library. vcpkg is making

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-20 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2017 06:21 PM, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:44:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: For further questions about what constitutes professional decorum, I recommend reading "Emily Post" books on manners which are readily available. I would never read such a thing. I subscribe

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 23:45:10 UTC, Mark wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:04:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: Also, a lot of this polish is missing because D is an OSS project that doesn't have corporate involvement driving it. No pure OSS project without heavy corporate involvement has ever

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Mark via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:04:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: Also, a lot of this polish is missing because D is an OSS project that doesn't have corporate involvement driving it. No pure OSS project without heavy corporate involvement has ever gotten everywhere, you will find corporate hands all

Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-18 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 22:24:47 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Yes, but suppose you want to build a C library like Google snappy, nanomsg or leveldb. It's a bit of a pain on Windows. Well, that's kinda what I mean by intermediate developer pain... but there's also lessneed to build libraries

Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 22:15:41 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:47:48 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Windows has been a bit of a pain, but mostly from the native code library side. I've found D on Windows to be very easy for myself and for my end users... but not for

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:44:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 6/18/2017 2:07 PM, Joakim wrote: I don't see any foul or abusive language in the post bachmeier quoted, Insulting forum members by telling them to "grow up", "stinks", for example, is abusive language. As is the Subject of the

Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-18 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:47:48 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Windows has been a bit of a pain, but mostly from the native code library side. I've found D on Windows to be very easy for myself and for my end users... but not for intermediate developers. For myself, I just set up the

Re: Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:37:13 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:06:07 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Is it possible to use lld on Windows? I never tried it myself. https://lld.llvm.org/ Says they don't support debug info (debugger being another dependency on

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 6/18/2017 2:07 PM, Joakim wrote: I don't see any foul or abusive language in the post bachmeier quoted, Insulting forum members by telling them to "grow up", "stinks", for example, is abusive language. As is the Subject of the post. Professional decorum is expected in this n.g. and on

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread John Carter via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 11:59:34 UTC, bachmeier wrote: As D continues to grow, there will be messages like this posted more frequently. Imagine that you work at a large company and are considering adopting D so you decide to check out the forum. Ruby talk in the early days went through a

Windows integration [was: Re: There really needs to be some moderation]

2017-06-18 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:06:07 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Is it possible to use lld on Windows? I never tried it myself. https://lld.llvm.org/ Says they don't support debug info (debugger being another dependency on VisualStudio). But yes, different toolchains (mingw, lld) and cross

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:06:07 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:01:10 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: You have quite a good point there, that said the Windows experience is fairly bad, no point about it. That's mostly because VisualStudio integration is required, be it for

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 6/19/17 12:07 AM, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:42:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/18/17 11:04 PM, Joakim wrote: I strongly disagree about deletion and banning. The moment you start removing dissenting opinions, you move towards a bubble where you get isolated from

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:42:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/18/17 11:04 PM, Joakim wrote: I strongly disagree about deletion and banning. The moment you start removing dissenting opinions, you move towards a bubble where you get isolated from the world. Foul or abusive language

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 21:01:10 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:04:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: I strongly disagree about deletion and banning. The moment you start removing dissenting opinions, you move towards a bubble where you get isolated from the world. These people

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:04:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: I strongly disagree about deletion and banning. The moment you start removing dissenting opinions, you move towards a bubble where you get isolated from the world. These people are detailing real frustrations that they had, albeit in a

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 20:04:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 11:59:34 UTC, bachmeier wrote: As D continues to grow, there will be messages like this posted more frequently. Imagine that you work at a large company and are considering adopting D so you decide to check out

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 6/18/17 11:04 PM, Joakim wrote: I strongly disagree about deletion and banning. The moment you start removing dissenting opinions, you move towards a bubble where you get isolated from the world. Foul or abusive language has nothing to do with dissenting. It's really simple - using

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 18 June 2017 at 11:59:34 UTC, bachmeier wrote: As D continues to grow, there will be messages like this posted more frequently. Imagine that you work at a large company and are considering adopting D so you decide to check out the forum. Posts like this have to be deleted from the

Re: There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d
On 18.06.2017 13:59, bachmeier wrote: Posts like this have to be deleted from the website and users that post such things need to be banned. Then maybe don't quote the offending post next time.

There really needs to be some moderation

2017-06-18 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
As D continues to grow, there will be messages like this posted more frequently. Imagine that you work at a large company and are considering adopting D so you decide to check out the forum. Posts like this have to be deleted from the website and users that post such things need to be banned.