Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-31 Thread Paulo Pinto
On 31.03.2013 14:29, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 30 March 2013 at 15:46:58 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Unless the bytecode is both comparable to LLVM and has an escape hatch to include real pre-compiled binary data, then that still bugs me. STill a huge improvement over Android, though. Well,

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-31 Thread deadalnix
On Saturday, 30 March 2013 at 15:46:58 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Unless the bytecode is both comparable to LLVM and has an escape hatch to include real pre-compiled binary data, then that still bugs me. STill a huge improvement over Android, though. Well, except that the user has to use Wi

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Paulo Pinto
On 30.03.2013 16:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:53:31 +0100 Paulo Pinto wrote: This is how Windows Phone 8 works, by using an offline compiler on Windows Store to compile .NET to native code, thus you only install native code, there is no JIT on the devices. Unless the b

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Johannes Pfau
Am Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:39:52 +0100 schrieb "jerro" : > > Some time ago there was a post on the newsgroup of someone that > > had a working GDC which would output ARM binaries and he even > > converted the most important parts of druntime to work for > > android to. But unfortunately I can't rem

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:53:31 +0100 Paulo Pinto wrote: > On 30.03.2013 10:43, Dicebot wrote: > > I hate this decision, too, but in case you wander, initial > > rationale for restricting everything to VM was an attempt to fight > > device h/w fragmentization and avoid necessity to build different >

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-03-30 08:26, Nick Sabalausky wrote: You've got the Go team which has historically been staunchly opposed to dynamic linking, and the Android team ten miles in the opposite direction. Classic corporate "left-hand vs right-hand" discrepancy. Makes them sound like Sony or MS. That's one t

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread jerro
On Saturday, 30 March 2013 at 09:55:27 UTC, Dicebot wrote: I have always wondered how it is done by Win 8. It requires knowledge of every single released device from Microsoft side, isn't it? How will it scale? Doesn't it only require knowledge of every architecture? And supporting ARM and x8

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Dicebot
I have always wondered how it is done by Win 8. It requires knowledge of every single released device from Microsoft side, isn't it? How will it scale?

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Paulo Pinto
On 30.03.2013 10:43, Dicebot wrote: I hate this decision, too, but in case you wander, initial rationale for restricting everything to VM was an attempt to fight device h/w fragmentization and avoid necessity to build different application versions for different devices. Failed attempt, obviousl

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Dicebot
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Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Dicebot
I hate this decision, too, but in case you wander, initial rationale for restricting everything to VM was an attempt to fight device h/w fragmentization and avoid necessity to build different application versions for different devices. Failed attempt, obviously. Apple have never needed that t

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-30 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:47:56 +0100 Paulo Pinto wrote: > On 30.03.2013 05:58, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:45:33 +0100 > > Paulo Pinto wrote: > > > >> On 28.03.2013 07:13, js.mdnq wrote: > >>> I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like > >>> to choose D

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Paulo Pinto
On 30.03.2013 05:58, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:45:33 +0100 Paulo Pinto wrote: On 28.03.2013 07:13, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see th

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:45:33 +0100 Paulo Pinto wrote: > On 28.03.2013 07:13, js.mdnq wrote: > > I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to > > choose D for this if it is mature enough. > > > > What is the D progress on the android? > > > > I see that at least others are i

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread jerro
Some time ago there was a post on the newsgroup of someone that had a working GDC which would output ARM binaries and he even converted the most important parts of druntime to work for android to. But unfortunately I can't remember where that was. Johannes Pfau has a GDC fork with Android supp

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Ali Çehreli
On 03/29/2013 02:32 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 29.03.2013 07:35, schrieb js.mdnq: On Thursday, 28 March 2013 at 06:13:17 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Paulo Pinto
On 28.03.2013 07:13, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see that at least others are interested but not finding a ton of information: http://forum.dlang.org/thread

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 29.03.2013 07:35, schrieb js.mdnq: On Thursday, 28 March 2013 at 06:13:17 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see that at least others are interested but no

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread Dicebot
On Thursday, 28 March 2013 at 06:13:17 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see that at least others are interested but not finding a ton of information: htt

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread deadalnix
On Friday, 29 March 2013 at 07:02:24 UTC, BLM768 wrote: On Friday, 29 March 2013 at 06:35:10 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I guess that means none... :/ Unfortunately, there hasn't been a lot of focus on ARM platforms; people are too busy improving the language and tools to work on standard PC hardwa

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-29 Thread BLM768
On Friday, 29 March 2013 at 06:35:10 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I guess that means none... :/ Unfortunately, there hasn't been a lot of focus on ARM platforms; people are too busy improving the language and tools to work on standard PC hardware. The DMD compiler definitely won't work for Android d

Re: What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-28 Thread js.mdnq
On Thursday, 28 March 2013 at 06:13:17 UTC, js.mdnq wrote: I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see that at least others are interested but not finding a ton of information: htt

What is the current state of D for android development?

2013-03-27 Thread js.mdnq
I would like to get into writing apps for android and would like to choose D for this if it is mature enough. What is the D progress on the android? I see that at least others are interested but not finding a ton of information: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/20120204203109.26c9a80b@jpf-lapto