Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-26 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 10/06/2014 06:02 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Some more couple thousands would buy us things like a web designer. Well we had some people working on a new website (http://w0rp.com:8010/) and if someone had collaborated with them to advance and integrate the work we would have a new websi

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-22 Thread rst256 via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 7 October 2014 at 01:11:42 UTC, Shammah Chancellor wrote: On 2014-10-06 22:28:52 +, Andrei Alexandrescu said: On 10/6/14, 12:59 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: I'm willing to put in the work if Walter is on board also. I don't want to do all that work to end up being a DPL Found

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d
On 2014-10-06 22:28:52 +, Andrei Alexandrescu said: On 10/6/14, 12:59 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: I'm willing to put in the work if Walter is on board also. I don't want to do all that work to end up being a DPL Foundation in name only. That's very generous of you, thanks! We'll discus

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 10/6/14, 12:59 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: I'm willing to put in the work if Walter is on board also. I don't want to do all that work to end up being a DPL Foundation in name only. That's very generous of you, thanks! We'll discuss this. From what I read at http://lwn.net/Articles/56133

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d
On 2014-10-06 04:09:26 +, Andrei Alexandrescu said: On 10/5/14, 7:28 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: There are many languages which have grown more quickly than D (despite being less interesting) because they have a foundation where people can donate, or some company, which provides for the c

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/14 12:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] > By "foundation", do you mean "non-profit organization"? Would it > be any simpler as far as you are concerned to set up an > organization without initially worrying about its no

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 10/6/14, 4:19 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 04:09:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I believe a foundation would help D. Unfortunately, setting one up is very laborious, and neither Walter nor I know anything about that - from what I understand it takes a _l

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 04:09:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I believe a foundation would help D. Unfortunately, setting one up is very laborious, and neither Walter nor I know anything about that - from what I understand it takes a _lot_ of work. By "foundation", do you mean "non-pro

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 02:24:45 UTC, Shammah Chancellor wrote: On 2014-10-05 03:33:36 +, Walter Bright said: We're not really limited by lack of funds, but more by lack of focussed effort. If anyone wants to contribute funds, probably the best use would be to add bug bounties for bug

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/14 09:12, Edwin van Leeuwen via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] > An alternative is to join an umbrella organisation that has > experience setting up foundations for open source projects. To name > a couple: Software Freedom Conservancy (Boost), Soft

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-06 Thread Edwin van Leeuwen via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 04:09:11 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I believe a foundation would help D. Unfortunately, setting one up is very laborious, and neither Walter nor I know anything about that - from what I understand it takes a _lot_ of work. If anyone is able and willing to embar

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 6 Oct 2014 05:05, "Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > > On 10/4/14, 8:33 PM, Walter Bright wrote: >>> >>> Might it be time for a formation of a D Programming Language >>> Foundation to which >>> people can donate and funds some of the hosting, and poss

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/14 03:28, Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] > I've placed a couple of anonymous bounties, but I personally think > it's a bad way to get directed focused effort. A democracy of > people trying to get what they individually want

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 10/5/14, 7:28 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: There are many languages which have grown more quickly than D (despite being less interesting) because they have a foundation where people can donate, or some company, which provides for the core developers. I'm not saying that having a non-profit

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 10/4/14, 8:33 PM, Walter Bright wrote: Might it be time for a formation of a D Programming Language Foundation to which people can donate and funds some of the hosting, and possibly pay for some time of the various heavy contributors? We're not really limited by lack of funds, whaaa but

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d
On 2014-10-05 03:33:36 +, Walter Bright said: We're not really limited by lack of funds, but more by lack of focussed effort. If anyone wants to contribute funds, probably the best use would be to add bug bounties for bugzilla issues that they find to be neglected. The bounties don't reall

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Sean Kelly via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 18:06:49 UTC, Etienne wrote: Programmers cost money, it would be nice to have a D Foundation where companies can donate and maybe eventually use the funds to pay for professional staffing rather than relying only on contributors. The D foundation can eventually gr

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 20:45:06 UTC, Sean Kelly wrote: On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 18:06:49 UTC, Etienne wrote: Programmers cost money, it would be nice to have a D Foundation where companies can donate and maybe eventually use the funds to pay for professional staffing rather than rel

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-05 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On 2014-10-04 11:33 PM, Walter Bright wrote: We're not really limited by lack of funds, but more by lack of focussed effort. If anyone wants to contribute funds, probably the best use would be to add bug bounties for bugzilla issues that they find to be neglected. The bounties don't really compen

Re: Who pays for all this?

2014-10-04 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 10/4/2014 5:18 PM, Shammah Chancellor wrote: I've been a member of the D community for about 13 years now, and I'm impressed with how much has happened over that period of time with the language and community. However, I wonder who pays for all of this? I feel like a lot of the infrastructur

Who pays for all this?

2014-10-04 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d
I've been a member of the D community for about 13 years now, and I'm impressed with how much has happened over that period of time with the language and community. However, I wonder who pays for all of this? I feel like a lot of the infrastructure is taken for granted, and provided ad-hoc