Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread Brad Roberts
BCS wrote: > Reply to Georg, > > >> I was always terrible at memorization. I couldn't learn my lines in >> school plays, and once I starred in an educational movie. The director >> was pulling his hair because I couldn't remember 15 secs of lines at a >> time. If I make a presentation, I simply h

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Sean Kelly wrote: == Quote from BCS (a...@pathlink.com)'s article Reply to Walter, Sean Kelly wrote: Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes note

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Christopher Wright
Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:47:10 +0200, Sean Kelly wrote: == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article I don't agree. I think there is much more at work here. Slides are limited in size and text content simply because there is so much informa

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from BCS (a...@pathlink.com)'s article > Reply to Sean, > > Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't > > presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in > > my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously > > rather than e

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread bearophile
BCS: > At the other end, if the professor *only* lectures on what's in the book, > what are they being paid for? Just talking? Better would be for the professor > to lecture on application, the what/why (and not the how), how ideas are > related, anecdotes and the like. Books are meant to be re

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Sean Kelly
== Quote from BCS (a...@pathlink.com)'s article > Reply to Walter, > > Sean Kelly wrote: > > > >> Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that > >> isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. > >> But in my experience it also creates a class that takes not

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Walter, BCS wrote: I can't memorize speeches either (OTOH I really like ones where I can read it off a script) what I'd love to have is a power point setup with two screens for me, one with a copy of the projector and one with my notes (in inch high font) and thumbnails of the followi

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Sean, Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging the material and asking questions. Overall, I think i

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Walter, Sean Kelly wrote: Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging the material and asking questions.

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Walter Bright wrote: BCS wrote: I can't memorize speeches either (OTOH I really like ones where I can read it off a script) what I'd love to have is a power point setup with two screens for me, one with a copy of the projector and one with my notes (in inch high font) and thumbnails of the fol

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:47:10 +0200, Sean Kelly wrote: == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article I don't agree. I think there is much more at work here. Slides are limited in size and text content simply because there is so much information a person can absor

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Walter Bright
Sean Kelly wrote: Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging the material and asking questions. Overall, I think

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread Walter Bright
BCS wrote: I can't memorize speeches either (OTOH I really like ones where I can read it off a script) what I'd love to have is a power point setup with two screens for me, one with a copy of the projector and one with my notes (in inch high font) and thumbnails of the following slides. I.e.

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Sean Kelly
== Quote from Daniel de Kok (m...@danieldk.org)'s article > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Keep > wrote: > > The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones > > where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the > > lecturer was trying to teach

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Georg, I was always terrible at memorization. I couldn't learn my lines in school plays, and once I starred in an educational movie. The director was pulling his hair because I couldn't remember 15 secs of lines at a time. If I make a presentation, I simply have to get familiar with th

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Sean, == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article I don't agree. I think there is much more at work here. Slides are limited in size and text content simply because there is so much information a person can absorb simultaneously by hearing and seeing. S

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Keep wrote: > The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones > where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the > lecturer was trying to teach us. Indeed, if writing down notes is required, then the reading mat

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Daniel Keep wrote: The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer was trying to teach us. Force students to take notes and the only thing they'll learn is how to write fast. The first unive

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Sean Kelly wrote: Georg Wrede wrote: That's certainly true with non-techie audiences. I wish we had had speaking classes when I went to school. The first time I gave a lecture at the university, my hands trembled visibly on the OH. I'm fine if I can just sit down and talk, but if I have to

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel Keep
The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer was trying to teach us. Force students to take notes and the only thing they'll learn is how to write fast. -- Daniel

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Michel Fortin
On 2009-05-04 14:47:10 -0400, Sean Kelly said: For lectures I basically have a choice between two options: 1. Take notes and not remember a darn thing that was said. 2. Not take any notes and remember the lecture. I've seen a few raised eyebrows at times, but this is why I never write anythin

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread Walter Bright
Sean Kelly wrote: I'm fine if I can just sit down and talk, but if I have to stand in front of people I still get nervous and scattered. I was told my talk at the D conference actually went reasonably well, but I forgot or missed about half the points I'd meant to cover out of sheer terror :-)

Re: Metaprogramming in D tonight at the NWCPP

2009-05-05 Thread bearophile
Brad Roberts: > I've now done enough presentations that the terror has subsided > and I can give a decent talk. It took years and lots of terror though. That's why you have to start giving presentations of your ideas/stories from the age of about 6 or so :-) I think in USA some schools use somet