On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 06:08:02 UTC, Leandro Lucarella
wrote:
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 19:18 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release
Bugzilla
is for internal development, not to inform people
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 06:24:37 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 9:54 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
And here's the list:
On 1/4/2013 12:16 AM, eles wrote:
Two concrete examples:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5992
is described in the list as: Phobos Win64 - D2 ; At least, change its title
to something more human, like Win64 alpha has been released with working
Phobos. (yes, that's exactly Don's
Can someone point me at URLs I can use as examples of code and result to
do a 5 min talk at Greach 2013 on Why even think of Node.js or Vert.x
when you have Vibe.d?
--
Russel.
=
Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 09:19:57 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
Changes:
- Compiles on DMD 2.061 (and Win64)
- The Win32 back end supports TCP sockets
- Form and REST interface generators have been improved and
can handle more types
- Diet templates support arbitrary D expressions
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:42:05 Walter Bright wrote:
They're commented out with the $(COMMENT ...) macro.
What's their purpose? I can understand automatically generating the list and
putting it in changelog.dd or putting some sort of javascript or whatnot in
there to generate the list
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:44:26 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:42 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Nobody has put forth that effort in the
past, resulting in the changelog being pretty crummy and woefully
incomplete.
I apologize to Jonathan for that remark, because Jonathan has been
04-Jan-2013 07:10, Walter Bright пишет:
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going
to be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only
headers
with no information.
The idea is to add explanatory
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 22:34:44 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 9:20 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Examples:
http://python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
I see a list, one line per, with a clickable link. The only real difference
is that there's one extra click to get that list in
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 10:12:37 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
No offense taken. It's definitely true that the Phobos
developers in general
have been spotty in updating the changelog files, and while
I've probably been
the best at it, it's not like I haven't missed stuff.
I think part of
On 2013-01-03 22:31, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
FWIW, you can see some info here:
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/k7afq6$2832$1...@digitalmars.com
Funny thing, the syntax in the original post by Walter was deprecated
from the beginning. The correct syntax is:
@(4) int a;
Or
struct Foo
{
int
04-Jan-2013 10:44, Jonathan M Davis пишет:
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 22:24:34 Walter Bright wrote:
Please note that the documentation that was there before in the changelog,
but with no corresponding bugzilla entry, has been cut pasted into the
enhancement request bugzilla entry that I
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
A couple issues:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
2. the OS X package hasn't been
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 12:40:36 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
A couple issues:
1.
03-Jan-2013 12:39, Michal Minich пишет:
Newly discovered changes in C++11 on using const and mutable for thread
safety
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/C-and-Beyond-2012-Herb-Sutter-You-dont-know-blank-and-blank
So now const is retrofitted as thread-safe. Again by convention.
And that is true
Jonathan M Davis, el 3 de January a las 21:49 me escribiste:
are purely notes which developers should be made aware of which should _not_
be buried in a list of bugzilla entries where most people won't see them (not
to mention, how many people do you think actually read through that list of
David Nadlinger, el 4 de January a las 11:38 me escribiste:
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 10:12:37 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
No offense taken. It's definitely true that the Phobos developers
in general
have been spotty in updating the changelog files, and while I've
probably been
the best
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 23:03 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 9:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
but other lines like
$(LI std.string: $(RED The implementations of std.string.format and
string.sformat have been replaced with improved implementations which conform
to writef. In some,
FWIW, you can see some info here:
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/**k7afq6$2832$1...@digitalmars.comhttp://forum.dlang.org/thread/k7afq6$2832$1...@digitalmars.com
Yeah, I read that when it happened. But I don't want to read entire threads
months afterwards to see how a feature work.
And,
I create a pull request with docs for UDA's:
https://github.com/D-**Programming-Language/d-**
programming-language.org/pull/**231https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/d-programming-language.org/pull/231
Nice move!
Too bad I get a pink unicorn from this one. Github is becoming stranger
Am 04.01.2013 10:19, schrieb Russel Winder:
Can someone point me at URLs I can use as examples of code and result to
do a 5 min talk at Greach 2013 on Why even think of Node.js or Vert.x
when you have Vibe.d?
I don't know the Vert.x API enough to be sure, but I think that they both use
the
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 22:34 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 9:20 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Examples:
http://python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
I see a list, one line per, with a clickable link. The only real
difference is that there's one extra click to get that list in the D
Leandro Lucarella, el 4 de January a las 15:02 me escribiste:
Nothing has been deleted. In fact, I think those previous items in
the 2.060 New/Changed Features are seriously deficient because they
contain no hyperlinks for more information.
This have to be fixed in the review process! A
On 2013-01-04 15:26, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Yeah, I read that when it happened. But I don't want to read entire
threads months afterwards to see how a feature work.
And, honestly: *no-one* coming from outside this discussion group can
understand that 2.061 brings UDA, or what UDA are.
I
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 07:03:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 9:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
but other lines like
Yes, you can put this in as the bugzilla title, though I'd
tighten it up a little.
This is 3 separate enhancements, each of which should be its
own issue, and
On 2013-01-04 15:27, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Nice move!
Too bad I get a pink unicorn from this one. Github is becoming stranger
and stranger :)
Works for me. Try this one:
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/d-programming-language.org/commit/bddbdf18353203ba12d8e0e44391e8b6a031b91a
--
/Jacob
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 15:26:35 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
Works for me. Try this one:
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/d-programming-language.org/commit/bddbdf18353203ba12d8e0e44391e8b6a031b91a
Yeah, that works, thanks! Now for some reading.
I'll still start a thread on D.main,
On 2013-01-04 16:32, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Yeah, that works, thanks! Now for some reading.
This might be easier to read. I rendered the DDOC to HTML:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18386187/attribute.html#uda
There's also documentation for the Traits section but nothing which
isn't available on
On Friday, January 04, 2013 14:30:01 Leandro Lucarella wrote:
I think the best way to do it is to put it in the repository where the
changes were made (this implies having separate release notes for dmd,
phobos and druntime, I know).
This way is trivial to see if some important change
On Friday, January 04, 2013 15:03:42 deadalnix wrote:
Isn't that feature supposed to be here in that form for strategic
reasons and should remains kind of hidden ?
Yeah. I thought that UDAs were supposed to be undocumented for the moment?
- Jonathan M Davis
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.comwrote:
On Friday, January 04, 2013 15:03:42 deadalnix wrote:
Isn't that feature supposed to be here in that form for strategic
reasons and should remains kind of hidden ?
Yeah. I thought that UDAs were supposed to be
On Friday, January 04, 2013 17:35:32 Philippe Sigaud wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.comwrote:
On Friday, January 04, 2013 15:03:42 deadalnix wrote:
Isn't that feature supposed to be here in that form for strategic
reasons and should remains kind of
On 13-01-04 3:45 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/4/2013 12:16 AM, eles wrote:
Two concrete examples:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5992
is described in the list as: Phobos Win64 - D2 ; At least, change
its title
to something more human, like Win64 alpha has been released with
On 13-01-04 10:49 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-04 16:32, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Yeah, that works, thanks! Now for some reading.
This might be easier to read. I rendered the DDOC to HTML:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18386187/attribute.html#uda
There's also documentation for the Traits
On 13-01-04 11:50 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, January 04, 2013 17:35:32 Philippe Sigaud wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.comwrote:
On Friday, January 04, 2013 15:03:42 deadalnix wrote:
Isn't that feature supposed to be here in that form for
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.comwrote:
They were shoved out the door without being fully sorted out first instead
of
being done on a separate branch first and sorted out there prior to being
released.
Yeah. OK, water under the bridge.
I thought that
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Pierre Rouleau prouleau...@gmail.comwrote:
If this is the case, why not add the mention experimental inside the
documentation? Readers (users and developers) would be aware of the new
feature and the fact that it might change or go away.
/Pierre
Ow,
On 13-01-04 12:18 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
I propose this:
- update the changelog to say UDA are implemented, but are potentially
subject to change. Use them, people, and report!
- merge Jacob's pull request to have a documentation. Proeminently put a
warning in the docs saying this is an
On 1/4/2013 2:11 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
I just don't want to not have the ability to add notes to
developers beyond that.
You can do that. Just issue a pull request, and it'll get merged in.
On 1/4/2013 2:09 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
What's their purpose? I can understand automatically generating the list and
putting it in changelog.dd or putting some sort of javascript or whatnot in
there to generate the list when the page is loaded, but if you're just putting
a link to bugzilla
On 1/4/2013 6:02 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 23:03 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 9:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
but other lines like
$(LI std.string: $(RED The implementations of std.string.format and
string.sformat have been replaced with improved
On 1/4/2013 6:00 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
03-Jan-2013 12:39, Michal Minich пишет:
Newly discovered changes in C++11 on using const and mutable for thread
safety
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/C-and-Beyond-2012-Herb-Sutter-You-dont-know-blank-and-blank
So now const is retrofitted as
On 1/4/2013 2:19 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
With all due respect I just plain refused crawling through the list of links of
bugzilla to understand the whole amount of changes and/or enhancements.
That's the way we've been doing it for years.
New features need to be featured (!) at the top
On 1/4/2013 8:13 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, January 04, 2013 15:03:42 deadalnix wrote:
Isn't that feature supposed to be here in that form for strategic
reasons and should remains kind of hidden ?
Yeah. I thought that UDAs were supposed to be undocumented for the moment?
No,
On 1/4/2013 8:59 AM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
Don't you think a process that requires reviewing these titles *before* the
actual software release announcement posting would help?
Of course it would. Do you wish to help? All help is welcome.
On 13-01-04 2:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/4/2013 8:59 AM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
Don't you think a process that requires reviewing these titles
*before* the
actual software release announcement posting would help?
Of course it would. Do you wish to help? All help is welcome.
I was
On 1/4/2013 12:23 PM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
On 13-01-04 2:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/4/2013 8:59 AM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
Don't you think a process that requires reviewing these titles
*before* the
actual software release announcement posting would help?
Of course it would. Do you
On 1/3/2013 10:44 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
P.S. Also, as a future improvement, we _really_ shouldn't be linking to
bugzilla for our list. I've never seen a release notes document or changelog
do that in my entire life. It would be _far_ more user friendly to list the
changes like we did
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 15:54:03 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
I don't know, there are many users out there who rather like
Unity too...
Seeing as linux mint has such a big following these days,
Cinnamon is quite a big contender.
I don't use mint any more, but cinnamon works great on a
Al 03/01/13 17:01, En/na Iain Buclaw ha escrit:
On 3 January 2013 15:40, Jordi Sayol g.sa...@yahoo.es
mailto:g.sa...@yahoo.es wrote:
Until today, I've not found yet a perfect Linux release.
What perfect Linux release did you find today? :o)
Sorry, my English is very bad. I wanted
On Monday, 31 December 2012 at 14:40:48 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
Am 31.12.2012 15:02, schrieb DypthroposTheImposter:
Do you find that D without GC is more effective than C++?
Seems like
you would be stuck using structs which seems somewhat
limiting, even
compared to C++...
UE4 has
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