Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread deadalnix
On Tuesday, 8 January 2013 at 07:30:55 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-01-07 21:30, David Nadlinger wrote: I don't know the current relative market share of the different OS X versions on top of my head either, but as we were getting a couple of bug reports from people who had tried to use

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/7/2013 8:17 PM, Pierre Rouleau wrote: And now I understand that D1 is no longer officially supported. If I understand properly D1 first release was 6 years ago. Lets assume I would have started a product development with it say 2 years ago because it was deemed relatively stable then. And

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-08 09:57, Walter Bright wrote: The moment D1 was stabilized, work began on D2. It was always understood that D2 was the future, and D1 was the stable version. Supporting it for 6 years is a pretty long time in the software business. At some point, you'll need to make a decision: 1.

Re: On Rust [OT]

2013-01-08 Thread renoX
On Monday, 7 January 2013 at 02:03:29 UTC, bearophile wrote: The slides: https://speakerd.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/505f7d17ccf4a50002011800/emerging-languages.pdf Bye, bearophile Here is a site http://www.rustforrubyists.com presenting Rust for Ruby developers, it's quite long, but

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Russel Winder
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 08:27 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I'm running 10.7 on my white MacBook from 2006. Interesting, I was told not to try upgrading to Lion, but to stay with Snow Leopard. MacBook2.1, Core 2 Duo, 2GB. This has a 64-bit processor, but 32-bit boot PROM, which means OS X will

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Russel Winder
Looks like Apple are turning Snow Leopard 10.6 into their equivalent of XP: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9233244/OS_X_Snow_Leopard_shows_signs_of_becoming_Apple_s_XP From the list on http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/ I cannot upgrade to Mountain Lion 10.8, and Apple provide no

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Walter Bright, el 7 de January a las 13:27 me escribiste: On 1/7/2013 11:40 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: Andrei Alexandrescu, el 7 de January a las 08:31 me escribiste: One thing I want to do is enshrine a vetting mechanism that would allow Walter and myself to pre-approve enhancement

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Walter Bright, el 8 de January a las 00:57 me escribiste: On 1/7/2013 8:17 PM, Pierre Rouleau wrote: And now I understand that D1 is no longer officially supported. If I understand properly D1 first release was 6 years ago. Lets assume I would have started a product development with it

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Pierre Rouleau, el 7 de January a las 23:17 me escribiste: I agree that feature releases mostly also contain bug fixes. I should have said, and I was thinking about proposing a process where minor releases that would only include bug fixes, and where major releases would mainly introduce new

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-08 13:52, Russel Winder wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 08:27 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote: Interesting, I was told not to try upgrading to Lion, but to stay with Snow Leopard. I just did. MacBook2.1, Core 2 Duo, 2GB. I think mine is from late 2006. This has a 64-bit processor,

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-08 14:05, Russel Winder wrote: Looks like Apple are turning Snow Leopard 10.6 into their equivalent of XP: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9233244/OS_X_Snow_Leopard_shows_signs_of_becoming_Apple_s_XP From the list on http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/ I cannot upgrade

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-08 14:05, Russel Winder wrote: Looks like Apple are turning Snow Leopard 10.6 into their equivalent of XP: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9233244/OS_X_Snow_Leopard_shows_signs_of_becoming_Apple_s_XP From the list on http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/ I cannot upgrade

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/8/2013 4:34 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: What about licensing issues, is it even legal to for D1's backend? I mean, I don't mind doing it personally, because I believe I won't have any problems. But company lawyers don't think so positively :) If you've got a licensing issue, talk to me

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/8/2013 4:52 AM, Russel Winder wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 08:27 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote: I'm running 10.7 on my white MacBook from 2006. Interesting, I was told not to try upgrading to Lion, but to stay with Snow Leopard. MacBook2.1, Core 2 Duo, 2GB. This has a 64-bit processor,

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-08 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:11:30 +0100 deadalnix deadal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, 8 January 2013 at 05:29:15 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:18:11 -0800 Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: On 1/7/2013 3:19 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013

Announcement: preapproved tag added to bugzilla

2013-01-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
Hello, As part of our continued efforts to improve the process, we have added the preapproved tag to bugzilla. An enhancement request that has the preapproved tag is considered reviewed and vetted by Walter (and myself on occasion). An implementation of the issue is guaranteed to be

Re: Announcement: preapproved tag added to bugzilla

2013-01-08 Thread bearophile
Andrei Alexandrescu: We will follow later today with a preapproved enhancement request. (Of course, we will also preapprove enhancements written by others, too.) I don't remember of other language communities doing this, but it seems a nice idea :-) Bye, bearophile

Re: Announcement: preapproved tag added to bugzilla

2013-01-08 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 1/9/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: An enhancement request that has the preapproved tag is considered reviewed and vetted by Walter (and myself on occasion). I would also like the BDFLs to start closing down some enhancements, there's too many opened in bugzilla

Re: Announcement: preapproved tag added to bugzilla

2013-01-08 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-30-09 04:01, Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote: Some reasons to reject: outright insane request. RESOLVED: OUTRIGHT INSANE REQUEST Yup, I likes that. -- Simen

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-08 21:49, Walter Bright wrote: So it won't run any 64 bit software? It can run 64bit software just fine. Mac OS X has been able to do that for a long time. 10.6 was the first version the kernel tries to run in 64bit mode (depends on the computer). Just because the kernel

Re: A look at the D programming language by Ferdynand Górski

2013-01-08 Thread thedeemon
On Monday, 7 January 2013 at 22:14:46 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 01/07/2013 01:57 PM, Phil Lavoie wrote: I meant scope objects work fine in most cases, but sometimes its good to explicitly delete objects on the heap. Usually, what is needed is to just finalize the object. The memory that it

Re: Shared Libraries [was Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release]

2013-01-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-07 13:41, David Nadlinger wrote: Yes, it is not supported by linker and dyld versions shipping with OS X 10.7. This is also the reason why LDC 2 only supports OS X 10.7+, as LLVM does not implement a workaround for older versions (although implementing one up to the point where it is